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  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3074.

They could keep read-only access to the discussion but can’t add new ideas or change existing ideas.

#3074​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

Maybe you remove them because you don’t even want them to be able to see anything.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3073.

They could keep access to their own ideas but not see others’.

#3073​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

There’d probably be a bunch of edge cases with this approach. For example, others would still be able to comment on those ideas, and the comments would have to be hidden from OPs. Which begs the question of how that impacts the displayed criticism count… And so on.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3075.

Permanent access: once added, you can’t remove them.

#3075​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

If you later realize that adding someone was a mistake, you should be able to correct that mistake.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3071.

What happens if you add a user to a private discussion, they submit a bunch of ideas, and then you remove them?

#3071​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

Permanent access: once added, you can’t remove them.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3071.

What happens if you add a user to a private discussion, they submit a bunch of ideas, and then you remove them?

#3071​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

They could keep read-only access to the discussion but can’t add new ideas or change existing ideas.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3071.

What happens if you add a user to a private discussion, they submit a bunch of ideas, and then you remove them?

#3071​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

They could keep access to their own ideas but not see others’.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3071.

What happens if you add a user to a private discussion, they submit a bunch of ideas, and then you remove them?

#3071​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

There could be hard cutoff: they lose access to everything, including their own ideas in that discussion.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #2728.

Feature idea: private discussions only the creator and invited people can see. This could be a paid feature; $2 per discussion, say.

#2728​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 6 months ago

What happens if you add a user to a private discussion, they submit a bunch of ideas, and then you remove them?

  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #2669.

Feature idea: pay people to address criticisms (either revise an idea and check off criticisms or counter-criticize).

#2669​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago

Could this feature be unified with #2811 somehow?

  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #2811.

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You submit an idea with a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks per criticism received, say.

The amount should be arbitrarily customizable.

There could then be a page for bounties at /bounties. And a page listing a user’s bounties at /:username/bounties.

#2811​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 6 months ago

Could this feature be unified with #2669 somehow?

  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #2623.

Then people could occasionally check the second tab for ideas they think they can rationally hold but actually can’t. And then they can work on addressing criticisms. A kind of ‘mental housekeeping’ to ensure they never accidentally hold on to problematic ideas.

Then people could occasionally check the second tab for ideas they think they can rationally hold but actually can’t. And then they can work on addressing criticisms. A kind of ‘mental housekeeping’ to ensure they never accidentally accept problematic ideas as true.

  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #2743 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #2972 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #1985 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3002.

The displayed criticism count for a filtered parent can differ from the number of displayed criticisms.

#3002​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 6 months ago

#3014 fixes this. Implemented as of c3247d5.

  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1993. The revision addresses ideas #1995 and #1994.

For all ideas, the total number of pending criticisms (if any) should always be shown, even if they are not all being rendered.

For all ideas, the total number of pending criticisms (if any) should always be shown, even if they are not all being rendered. For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that some pending criticisms may be hidden due to filtering.

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #2008.

Any filtered idea should always display only the count of shown criticisms.

#2008​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 7 months ago

As with #2098, implementing an accurate count of the number of shown criticisms gets very tricky once the user starts submitting new criticisms on filtered parents.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1999.

People could easily miss or forget that.

#1999​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 7 months ago

For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that the total number of pending criticisms may be greater on the unfiltered view.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #3008.

For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that the total number of pending criticisms may be greater on the unfiltered view.

For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that some pending criticisms may be hidden due to filtering.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #2000.

See #1999: “People could easily miss or forget that.”

#2000​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 7 months ago

For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that the total number of pending criticisms may be greater on the unfiltered view.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3005.

I could get rid of the count everywhere, even on unfiltered views. That would have the added benefit that users wouldn’t prefer one problematic idea over another just because it has fewer pending criticisms.

#3005​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 6 months ago

Still, the count is valuable in that it shows how many criticisms need to be addressed to restore an idea.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #3004.

I could get rid of the count everywhere, even on unfiltered views.

I could get rid of the count everywhere, even on unfiltered views. That would have the added benefit that users wouldn’t prefer one problematic idea over another just because it has fewer pending criticisms.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3001.

But users are expecting a count.

#3001​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago

I could get rid of the count everywhere, even on unfiltered views.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #2970.

Bug when cycling through ‘filtered’ revisions: on page render, no matter how many children/criticisms a parent of the highlighted idea has, only the highlighted idea is shown – that’s fine so far – but the displayed criticism count may be higher if there are criticisms that are not being shown. So there’s a mismatch.

The displayed criticism count for a filtered parent can differ from the number of displayed criticisms.

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #2999.

For any filtered parent, the criticism badge could be shown without a count.

#2999​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 6 months ago

But users are expecting a count.