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‘When I distribute other people’s bicycles for free, I am simply offering better terms for access to bicycles than the stores that sell them, so in a free market I should be the one that ends up distributing because I solve the same problem at a lower price.’ 🤡

#1456 · Dennis Hackethal, about 14 hours ago · Criticism

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#1455 · Amaro Koberle, about 14 hours ago · Criticism

Just intuitively, I feel like there's a difference between forcing others not to force you, and forcing others not to copy you. I feel like defending against others using your scarce means towards their ends is just, while defending against others using non-scarce means towards their end is wicked. Since I impose no opportunity cost on someone by copying information, they have no claim on my scarce means as recompense. The copy-ability of information gives us this nice non-zero-sum situation where we can have our cake and eat it too because we don't have to economize on non-scarce things.

Correction: In some sense copying information does impose a cost, but I think of that cost more akin to the cost imposed on an incumbent producer by his competing alternatives in a free market.

When I distribute Harry Potter for free, I am simply offering better terms for access to the information than JK Rowling, so in a free market I should be the one that ends up distributing because I solve the same problem at a lower price.

#1454 · Amaro Koberle, about 14 hours ago · revision of #1447 · CriticismCriticized2 criticim(s)

Copyright infringement usually isn’t a crime.

#1453 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

No I disagree, for all the reasons I already gave in response to #1346.

#1452 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

Do you agree that scarcity is at least a central consideration in determining whether copying information in disregard of consent should be considered a crime or not?

#1451 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago · Criticized2 criticim(s)

This duplicate is symptomatic of a larger and common issue of just reverting back to one’s previous arguments when one hasn’t fully processed the counterarguments. Veritula helps you avoid doing that because you can just look up each idea’s ‘truth status’. If it has outstanding criticisms, you don’t invoke it again. You either save it first or work on something else.

#1450 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · revision of #1449

This duplicate is symptomatic of a larger and common issue of just reverting back to one’s previous arguments when one hasn’t fully addressed the counterarguments. Veritula helps you avoid doing that because you can just look up each idea’s ‘truth status’. If it has outstanding criticisms, you don’t invoke it again. You either save it first or work on something else.

#1449 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago

Duplicate of #1346.

#1448 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

Just intuitively, I feel like there's a difference between forcing others not to force you, and forcing others not to copy you. I feel like defending against others using your scarce means towards their ends is just, while defending against others using non-scarce means towards their end is wicked. Since I impose no opportunity cost on someone by copying information, they have no claim on my scarce means as recompense. The copy-ability of information gives us this nice non-zero-sum situation where we can have our cake and eat it too because we don't have to economize on non-scarce things.

#1447 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago · CriticismCriticized2 criticim(s)

Duplicate of #1346.

#1445 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

Not circular since #1346 is not a parent of this idea.

#1444 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

Going in circles now.

#1443 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

I have received a pattern of information. Information cannot be owned as it is non-scarce. JK Rowling is asking me to give her money for something that was never hers to begin with.

#1442 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

You didn’t trade value for value. You traded nothing at all and only received. A free market and justice depend on people interacting as traders, not as leeches (objectivism).

#1441 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

You never agreed to buy the bike either, that’s the point.

#1440 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

But I didn't agree to buy the book. I wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't found it on pirate bay, let's say.

#1439 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago · CriticismCriticized2 criticim(s)

Just returning the bike doesn’t necessarily make him whole. Maybe he lost revenues during the time he couldn’t use his bike.

#1438 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

Maybe you could simply pay her the price of the book plus interest plus a fee for the inconvenience. Plus some ‘deterrence fee’ so that most people don’t even think of doing it to begin with.

#1437 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

There, the owner is short of a bike. Returning it to him will make him whole. The situation looks quite different in the case of information, at least in my eyes. What exactly is to be returned?

#1436 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago · CriticismCriticized2 criticim(s)

Superseded by #1434. This comment was generated automatically.

#1435 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

Circular due to #1386.

#1434 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · revision of #1431 · Criticism

Superseded by #1432. This comment was generated automatically.

#1433 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · Criticism

Duplicate of #1386. Repeating an argument that has outstanding criticisms doesn’t address the criticisms. You can address the criticisms or revise the argument or abandon the argument.

#1432 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · revision of #1430 · Criticism

Circular due to #1392.

#1431 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)