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A quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times. That looping program is not a person (no knowledge is created, however many times it loops, for instance), but it still constitutes experience.
So people are not the only programs that can be qualia.
A quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times. That looping program is not a person: it can only create whatever knowledge it originally did, not any possible knowledge, maybe until freed from the loop. Yet it still constitutes experience.
So people are not the only programs that can be qualia.
#5032·Tyler MillsOP, 1 day agoActually maybe this isn't so obvious. A person need not create new knowledge for the personhood property to be present, since it is a counterfactual property: a person can create new knowledge (new and non-inferable, I argue).
True that a person need not create new knowledge, but a looping quale is not a person, per #5035, so the claim survives this criticism.
#5033·Tyler MillsOP, 1 day agoIf qualia are only present when new knowledge is being made, then for a quale to be replayed it could be that there must be a reset each time: the knowledge produced from the previous run is erased. So w.r.t. the AGI system alone, new knowledge is being created each time (it doesn't matter if the knowledge is copied from a previous run and stored elsewhere, in which case it is not new w.r.t. that combined system).
#5034·Tyler MillsOP, 1 day agoA looping quale is also not a person because personhood is not just: can create a given piece of new knowledge, it is: can create any knowledge (not just that created by this quale; again assuming knowledge creation defines qualia).
Should clarify that personhood is: can create any new knowledge in principle (excluding resource constraints). A program consisting of a looping quale cannot create any possible knowledge, whether or not it is creating some each time it's run.
#5031·Tyler MillsOP, 1 day agoA quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times. That looping program is not a person (no knowledge is created, however many times it loops, for instance), but it still constitutes experience.
So people are not the only programs that can be qualia.
A looping quale is also not a person because personhood is not just: can create a given piece of new knowledge, it is: can create any knowledge (not just that created by this quale; again assuming knowledge creation defines qualia).
#5031·Tyler MillsOP, 1 day agoA quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times. That looping program is not a person (no knowledge is created, however many times it loops, for instance), but it still constitutes experience.
So people are not the only programs that can be qualia.
If qualia are only present when new knowledge is being made, then for a quale to be replayed it could be that there must be a reset each time: the knowledge produced from the previous run is erased. So w.r.t. the AGI system alone, new knowledge is being created each time (it doesn't matter if the knowledge is copied from a previous run and stored elsewhere, in which case it is not new w.r.t. that combined system).
#5031·Tyler MillsOP, 1 day agoA quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times. That looping program is not a person (no knowledge is created, however many times it loops, for instance), but it still constitutes experience.
So people are not the only programs that can be qualia.
Actually maybe this isn't so obvious. A person need not create new knowledge for the personhood property to be present, since it is a counterfactual property: a person can create new knowledge (new and non-inferable, I argue).
#4881·Tyler MillsOP revised about 2 months agoAssumption A1: Only programs that are people can, while running, constitute qualia/experience/subjectivity/consciousness.
A quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times. That looping program is not a person (no knowledge is created, however many times it loops, for instance), but it still constitutes experience.
So people are not the only programs that can be qualia.
Some people are lactose intolerant.
Some people are lactose intolerant, others are vegan.
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I’m pro abortion but I have some pro life in me.
Banning the abortion of a zygote seems ridiculous. So does aborting a seven-month-old fetus.
Why not go with: you can abort until the nervous system develops.
Clearly, an embryo without a nervous system can’t be sentient and thus can’t be a person, right? And as long as it’s not a person, it doesn’t have any rights.
According to https://www.neurosciencefoundation.org/post/brain-development-in-fetus, “an embryo’s brain and nervous system begin to develop at around the 6-week mark.” And: “At as early as 8 weeks (about 2 months), you can see physical evidence of the brain working (the electric impulses) as ultrasounds show the embryo moving.”
This idea is for viable pregnancies only. Other considerations may apply for non-viable ones.
I’m pro abortion but I have some pro life in me.
Banning the abortion of a zygote seems ridiculous. So does aborting a seven-month-old fetus.
Why not go with: you can abort until the nervous system develops.
Clearly, an embryo without a nervous system can’t be sentient and thus can’t be a person, right? And as long as it’s not a person, it doesn’t have any rights.
According to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK542179/, “CNS [central-nervous-system] development begins during the 3rd week of embryogenesis…”
This idea is for viable pregnancies only. Other considerations may apply for non-viable ones.
#299·Dennis HackethalOP revised almost 2 years agoI’m pro abortion but I have some pro life in me.
Banning the abortion of a zygote seems ridiculous. So does aborting a seven-month-old fetus.
Why not go with: you can abort until the nervous system develops.
Clearly, an embryo without a nervous system can’t be sentient and thus can’t be a person, right? And as long as it’s not a person, it doesn’t have any rights.
According to https://www.neurosciencefoundation.org/post/brain-development-in-fetus, “an embryo’s brain and nervous system begin to develop at around the 6-week mark.” And: “At as early as 8 weeks (about 2 months), you can see physical evidence of the brain working (the electric impulses) as ultrasounds show the embryo moving.”
This idea is for viable pregnancies only. Other considerations may apply for non-viable ones.
Link is dead.
#5017·Dirk Meulenbelt, 6 days agoLess constant feeding can improve blood sugar swings and insulin sensitivity because every time you eat, your body has to run the insulin system again.
You can just eat fiber with your meals instead, that will slow down insulin secretion afaik.
#5021·Dirk Meulenbelt, 6 days agoI tried to look for good arguments against eating dairy for it being dairy and I cannot find any.
Some people are lactose intolerant.
One is that it's a way of reducing body fat, and overweight is likely a bigger problem for many people than potential short term negatives of fasting.
One is that it's a way of reducing body fat, and overweight is likely a bigger problem for many people than potential short term negatives of fasting.
#5015·Dirk Meulenbelt, 6 days agoOne is that it's a way of reducing body fat, and overweight is likely a bigger problem for many people than potential short term negatives of fasting.
When a question is a criticisms, you want to mark your answer as a criticism too so it counts as answered.
#5010·Dennis Hackethal revised 6 days agoI could see that. Milk is hydrating. Yogurt is a good source of calcium and protein. Can go with low-fat or fat-free options to reduce calories.
I tried to look for good arguments against eating dairy for it being dairy and I cannot find any.
Protein above 0.8 g/kg body weight is desirable, often up to around 2 g/kg.
Protein above 0.8 g/kg of lean mass is desirable, often up to around 2 g/kg.
There are hints that your body cleans up cells when you fast (autophagy).
Less constant feeding can improve blood sugar swings and insulin sensitivity because every time you eat, your body has to run the insulin system again.
Eating dinner earlier can be beneficial to sleep because digestion raises body activity.
One is that it's a way of reducing body fat, and overweight is likely a bigger problem for many people than potential short term negatives of fasting.
Yes. Very easy to overconsume, especially from hyper-palatable foods which are often greasy. I try to eat around 60g of fat per day.
Yes. Fat is calorically dense and easy to overconsume, especially from hyper-palatable foods which are often greasy. I try to eat around 60g of fat per day.
Yes. Very easy to overconsume, especially from hyper-palatable foods which are often greasy. I try to eat around 60g of fat per day.
I could see that. Milk is hydrating. Yogurt is a good source of calcium. Can go with low-fat or fat-free options to reduce calories.
I could see that. Milk is hydrating. Yogurt is a good source of calcium and protein. Can go with low-fat or fat-free options to reduce calories.
I could see that. Milk is hydrating. Yogurt is a good source of calcium. Can go with low-fat or fat-free options to reduce calories.