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Maybe? Kinda? Not sure.

You don't get to use your knife to aggress on others, that much is clear. So perhaps this can be understood as a right of others to do certain things with your property.

#1368·Amaro Koberle, 7 months ago

Some people abuse the letter of the law to violate the spirit of the law, but that doesn’t mean the corresponding laws are bad per se. Those are problems, errors that can be corrected.

#1367·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

I'm not sure, seriously. I'm open to suggestions.

There's lots of things that I think people shouldn't do yet should still be legal.

#1364·Amaro Koberle, 7 months ago

So if someone publishes a blog post falsely but believably accusing you of being a pedophile and then all your business partners stop talking to you and you lose all your money and your friends and family ghost you, you wouldn’t want to have any legal recourse?

#1363·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago

I'm not sure it's a good thing.

#1362·Amaro Koberle, 7 months ago

But it isn’t scarce in a physical sense.

#1361·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

Take someone’s reputation. That isn’t a ‘scarce’ thing yet it’s a good thing there are laws against defamation.

#1359·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

Duplicate of #1346.

#1358·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

Imagine living on a flat planet that extends infinitely in all directions.

Land is not scarce on this planet.

You build a house, mixing your labor with an acre of land. Someone comes and takes your land, saying you have no cause for complaint since land isn’t scarce.

See how scarcity isn’t necessary for something to be property?

#1357·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

It’s right for the law to address and prevent the arbitrary, and that’s about more than just property. See #1345.

#1356·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

But the law against murder isn’t a dumb law even though it doesn’t refer to someone’s body being scarce property.

#1355·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

If current law isn’t based on what you claim it’s based on then that does make it less true.

#1353·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

Ridiculous definition of murder. Classic libertarian thought bending over backwards to reduce everything to property rights. Please cite a legal text where the definition of murder invokes scarce property.

#1350·Dennis Hackethal revised 7 months ago·Original #1348·Criticism

I do expect innovation to suffer from current copyright infringement, yes. Just add up all the infringed copies being shared times the average price, that’s the damage being done and it discourages creators from creating more.

#1349·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago

But digital money isn’t physically scarce like someone’s body. Your argument rests on physical property being special in some way.

#1347·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

Laws (against murder and other crimes) don’t reduce to physical property.

Libertarians often think that the purpose of the law is ONLY to define and enforce property rights. In reality, the purpose of the law is to prevent and address the arbitrary in social life.

It’s true that it would be arbitrary if anyone could just take your property against your will, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only kind of arbitrariness the law should prevent/address.

#1345·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

One can steal value without stealing physical property (as happens when you transfer someone’s digital money without their consent).

#1344·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

That could be happening though, so agreed that it isn't a good argument.

#1343·Amaro Koberle, 7 months ago·Criticism

‘Lawbreakers get away with it all the time so it’s fine.’ How is that an argument?

#1340·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

‘To stop someone from murdering you you have to infringe on his private property by claiming an exclusive right on prohibiting his use of his privately owned gun to shoot you’ How is that different?

#1339·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

Copyright encourages creativity because the most creative work is done by the original work’s creator, and copyright protects that creation. Without that incentive, many original creators wouldn’t publish their creations in the first place.

#1333·Dennis Hackethal revised 7 months ago·Original #1331·Criticism

Another way copyright promotes creativity is that it doesn’t allow creations that aren’t sufficiently creative.

#1332·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

People can still publish fan fiction as long as they get the copyright holder’s permission.

#1330·Dennis Hackethal, 7 months ago·Criticism

This idea isn’t marked as a criticism but presumably should be. (Though it need not be marked as a criticism anymore if it’s going to split up into multiple separate submissions as per #1324.)

#1327·Dennis Hackethal revised 8 months ago·Original #1325·Criticism

This idea contains at least two claims and one question:

  1. Copyright stifles creativity.
  2. Fan fiction does not damage creators.
  3. “Where is copyright good?”

It’s unwise to submit multiple ideas at once as they each become susceptible to ‘bulk criticism’. That can unduly weaken your own position.

Try submitting the ideas again, separately.

#1324·Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago·Criticism