Dennis Hackethal

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  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1454.

Just intuitively, I feel like there's a difference between forcing others not to force you, and forcing others not to copy you. I feel like defending against others using your scarce means towards their ends is just, while defending against others using non-scarce means towards their end is wicked. Since I impose no opportunity cost on someone by copying information, they have no claim on my scarce means as recompense. The copy-ability of information gives us this nice non-zero-sum situation where we can have our cake and eat it too because we don't have to economize on non-scarce things.

Correction: In some sense copying information does impose a cost, but I think of that cost more akin to the cost imposed on an incumbent producer by his competing alternatives in a free market.

When I distribute Harry Potter for free, I am simply offering better terms for access to the information than JK Rowling, so in a free market I should be the one that ends up distributing because I solve the same problem at a lower price.

#1454 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago

‘When I distribute other people’s bicycles for free, I am simply offering better terms for access to bicycles than the stores that sell them, so in a free market I should be the one that ends up distributing because I solve the same problem at a lower price.’ 🤡

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1451.

Do you agree that scarcity is at least a central consideration in determining whether copying information in disregard of consent should be considered a crime or not?

#1451 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago

Copyright infringement usually isn’t a crime.

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1451.

Do you agree that scarcity is at least a central consideration in determining whether copying information in disregard of consent should be considered a crime or not?

#1451 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago

No I disagree, for all the reasons I already gave in response to #1346.

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1449.
This duplicate is symptomatic of a larger and common issue of just reverting back to one’s previous arguments when one hasn’t fully addressedprocessed the counterarguments. Veritula helps you avoid doing that because you can just look up each idea’s ‘truth status’. If it has outstanding criticisms, you don’t invoke it again. You either save it first or work on something else.
About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #1448.

Duplicate of #1346.

#1448 · Dennis Hackethal, about 15 hours ago

This duplicate is symptomatic of a larger and common issue of just reverting back to one’s previous arguments when one hasn’t fully addressed the counterarguments. Veritula helps you avoid doing that because you can just look up each idea’s ‘truth status’. If it has outstanding criticisms, you don’t invoke it again. You either save it first or work on something else.

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1447.

Just intuitively, I feel like there's a difference between forcing others not to force you, and forcing others not to copy you. I feel like defending against others using your scarce means towards their ends is just, while defending against others using non-scarce means towards their end is wicked. Since I impose no opportunity cost on someone by copying information, they have no claim on my scarce means as recompense. The copy-ability of information gives us this nice non-zero-sum situation where we can have our cake and eat it too because we don't have to economize on non-scarce things.

#1447 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago

Duplicate of #1346.

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1371.

So… the law extending to others’ property is nothing new and not totalitarian in and of itself.

#1371 · Dennis Hackethal, 3 days ago
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About 15 hours ago
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1442.

I have received a pattern of information. Information cannot be owned as it is non-scarce. JK Rowling is asking me to give her money for something that was never hers to begin with.

#1442 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago

Duplicate of #1346.

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1443.

Going in circles now.

#1443 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago

Not circular since #1346 is not a parent of this idea.

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1439.

But I didn't agree to buy the book. I wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't found it on pirate bay, let's say.

#1439 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago

You didn’t trade value for value. You traded nothing at all and only received. A free market and justice depend on people interacting as traders, not as leeches (objectivism).

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1439.

But I didn't agree to buy the book. I wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't found it on pirate bay, let's say.

#1439 · Amaro Koberle, about 15 hours ago

You never agreed to buy the bike either, that’s the point.

About 15 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1436.

There, the owner is short of a bike. Returning it to him will make him whole. The situation looks quite different in the case of information, at least in my eyes. What exactly is to be returned?

#1436 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

Just returning the bike doesn’t necessarily make him whole. Maybe he lost revenues during the time he couldn’t use his bike.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1436.

There, the owner is short of a bike. Returning it to him will make him whole. The situation looks quite different in the case of information, at least in my eyes. What exactly is to be returned?

#1436 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

Maybe you could simply pay her the price of the book plus interest plus a fee for the inconvenience. Plus some ‘deterrence fee’ so that most people don’t even think of doing it to begin with.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1431.
Circular due to #1392.#1386.
About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1430.
Duplicate of #1392.#1386. Repeating an argument that has outstanding criticisms doesn’t address the criticisms. You can address the criticisms or revise the argument or abandon the argument.
About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1429.

But I was never party to that contract! I never agreed not to distribute it, and I also didn't actually distribute it. I just downloaded it from Pirate bay.

#1429 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

Circular due to #1392.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1429.

But I was never party to that contract! I never agreed not to distribute it, and I also didn't actually distribute it. I just downloaded it from Pirate bay.

#1429 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

Duplicate of #1392. Repeating an argument that has outstanding criticisms doesn’t address the criticisms. You can address the criticisms or revise the argument or abandon the argument.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1427.

So then JK Rowling can use violence against me to extort the value that I have supposedly stolen by downloading a book that was uploaded in violation of a contract by a third person?

#1427 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

Not sure that’s extortion but yes, generally speaking, people have the right to use force to prevent and address the arbitrary in social life (#1345).

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #1425.

There's this nice bit in Man, Economy & State where Rothbard explains that durable goods can be broken down into their unit services (not sure that's the term) and that all durable goods get used up as they provide service.

So I guess someone would reduce the serviceable lifespan of the bike by using it during the times that you aren't using it.

#1425 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

Yeah. And if he takes it against your will and replaces it with a brand new bike it’s still theft.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1421.

It's a good point, but I don't think those two compare. Again, bicycles are scarce. My use prevents your use.

#1421 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

It’s about value not physical scarcity. If you only steal it while I’m asleep and return it before I wake up and want to use it it’s still theft.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1421.

It's a good point, but I don't think those two compare. Again, bicycles are scarce. My use prevents your use.

#1421 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

Duplicate of #1346.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1417.

Midjourney wouldn't exist... Our cool pics of Mujahideen eating Bacon wouldn't exist.

#1417 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

‘Couriers who jump start their careers by stealing bicycles wouldn’t exist.’

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1417.

Midjourney wouldn't exist... Our cool pics of Mujahideen eating Bacon wouldn't exist.

#1417 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago
About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1413.

I doubt it. I hope they keep doing it. I hope to live in a world where copyright isn't enforced. I expect to see more creation and novelty.

#1413 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

I doubt it.

You just say that without any reasoning.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1413.

I doubt it. I hope they keep doing it. I hope to live in a world where copyright isn't enforced. I expect to see more creation and novelty.

#1413 · Amaro Koberle, about 16 hours ago

I doubt it.

Unclear what “it” refers to.

About 16 hours ago · ‘Copyright ’