Dennis Hackethal
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#1575 · Dennis HackethalOP, 13 days agoI’ve made pizza almost every day since the last revision (around 16 pizzas). I’ve gotten pretty good at it.
Ingredients
- Store-bought dough (312g)
- Tomato sauce (90g)
- Mozzarella (part skim, home-shredded, 100g)
- 2g extra virgin olive oil
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- A dash of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 650°F.
- In the meantime, rest dough on counter top until it reaches room temperature.
- Grate cheese and measure tomato sauce.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Add tomato sauce.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack with the broiler still on.
- Bake for 2 minutes.
- Take out to add oregano and cheese.
- Bake for another minute on top rack; again, the broiler is still on.
- Take out steel and let pizza rest on steel for another minute to make the bottom crispy.
- In the meantime, apply small amount of olive oil to the outer crust and sprinkle salt on outer crust.
- Remove from steel and serve.
I’ve tried dough from a local pizzeria and compared how their dough tastes when they prepare it vs how it tastes when I prepare it at home. The crust wasn’t as crispy at home but overall the dough didn’t taste all that different. That tells me that my oven is at least decent for making pizza.
##I’ve made pizza almost every day since the last revision (around 16 pizzas). I’ve gotten pretty good at it.↵ ↵ ## Ingredients - Store-bought dough(1 pound)↵ - Crushed tomatoes (135g)↵ -(312g)↵ - Tomato sauce (90g)↵ - Mozzarella (part skim,shredded, 130g)↵ ↵ Then,home-shredded, 100g)↵ - 2g extra virgin olive oil↵ ↵ Then, for garnish:3 unchanged lines collapsed-3gA dash of salt4 unchanged lines collapsed2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about630°F.↵ 3. Rest650°F.↵ 3. In the meantime, rest dough on counter top until it reaches room temperature. 4.Add salt to theGrate cheese and measure tomato sauce. 5.Grate cheese.↵ 6.Stretch thedough.↵ 7.dough.↵ 6. Dust peel withflour.↵ 8.flour.↵ 7. Remove excess flour fromdough.↵ 9.dough.↵ 8. Place dough onpeel.↵ 12.peel.↵ 9. Add tomato sauce.↵ 10. Place dough on steel; still on toprack.↵ 13.rack with the broiler still on.↵ 11. Bake for 2minutes.↵ 14.minutes.↵ 12. Take outandto addsauceoregano andcheese.↵ 15.cheese.↵ 13. Bake for another1.5 minutes.↵ ↵ Results:↵ ↵ - Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/F39AZW3SW8#Z91hQA29jWxV↵ - Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/Y8VXB0M114#zkTrWfPfo7wcminute on top rack; again, the broiler is still on.↵ 14. Take out steel and let pizza rest on steel for another minute to make the bottom crispy.↵ 15. In the meantime, apply small amount of olive oil to the outer crust and sprinkle salt on outer crust.↵ 16. Remove from steel and serve.
#1571 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoSome had suggested parbaking without any toppings. Horrible idea: the dough rose everywhere at once. Tomato sauce is required to weigh down the dough in the center.
Their suggestion was that this approach might make the crust crispier. It did not. I’m starting to think the store-bought dough is the problem…
#1570 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (135g)
- Mozzarella (part skim, shredded, 130g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 3g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
- Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
- Bake for 2 minutes.
- Take out and add sauce and cheese.
- Bake for another 1.5 minutes.
Results:
Dough was shaped horribly. Need to practice stretching it.
#1570 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (135g)
- Mozzarella (part skim, shredded, 130g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 3g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
- Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
- Bake for 2 minutes.
- Take out and add sauce and cheese.
- Bake for another 1.5 minutes.
Results:
I felt like trying more sauce. Mistake. 100g is enough.
#1570 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (135g)
- Mozzarella (part skim, shredded, 130g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 3g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
- Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
- Bake for 2 minutes.
- Take out and add sauce and cheese.
- Bake for another 1.5 minutes.
Results:
Some had suggested parbaking without any toppings. Horrible idea: the dough rose everywhere at once. Tomato sauce is required to weigh down the dough in the center.
Sixth try
3 unchanged lines collapsed- Crushed tomatoes(100g)↵ -(135g)↵ - Mozzarella (part skim, shredded, 130g)10 unchanged lines collapsed2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about660°F.↵ 3.630°F.↵ 3. Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.3 unchanged lines collapsed7. Dustthe pizzapeel with flour. 8. Remove excess flour from dough. 9. Place dough onpeel.↵ 10. Add the tomato sauce.↵ 11. Add cheese.↵ 12.peel.↵ 12. Place dough on steel; still on top rack. 13. Bake for2.52 minutes. 14.Turn off broilerTake out andset oven to 450°F.↵ 15. Move to bottom rack.↵ 16.add sauce and cheese.↵ 15. Bake for another41.5 minutes.3 unchanged lines collapsed- Top:https://drive.proton.me/urls/T890QSC0D0#a05C7Vx0BH1m↵ -https://drive.proton.me/urls/F39AZW3SW8#Z91hQA29jWxV↵ - Bottom:https://drive.proton.me/urls/Y5TSN47MH4#DVT0yWyTenEV↵ ↵ Dough noticeably thinner than last time.https://drive.proton.me/urls/Y8VXB0M114#zkTrWfPfo7wc
#1535 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (100g)
- Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 150g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 5g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere between 450 and 500°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 620°F.
- Rest dough at room temperature for about 1.5 hours. It felt like it had reached about room temp.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust the pizza peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Add the tomato sauce.
- Add cheese.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack with the broiler on.
- Bake for 2.5 minutes.
- Take out to add cheese.
- Move to bottom rack for another 2.5 minutes.
- Move back to top rack for 1 min.
Results (markedly better again than last time):
- Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/R5NC0NVP1M#lEvW9YodqSZR
- Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/RYQPFZJSCR#LQKeZiiTbp9G
- Bottom (another slice): https://drive.proton.me/urls/N7VM0C48P8#XSP9bVZUyxUz
Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. If I put the steel on the bottom rack (which is directly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on, it hovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.
The dough came out really good this time. It was light and fluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it – I think that’s why it got so hard last time.
I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.
Step 11 is wrong. I didn’t add the cheese until later.
I may want to go back to #1535 or some variation thereof where I put the cheese on after aparbake.↵ ↵ Alsoparbake. It’s the best pie I’ve made to date.↵ ↵ Also note that #1515 hada crispy crust.the best crust to date.
#1559 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (100g)
- Mozzarella (part skim, shredded, 130g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 3g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 660°F.
- Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust the pizza peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Add the tomato sauce.
- Add cheese.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
- Bake for 2.5 minutes.
- Turn off broiler and set oven to 450°F.
- Move to bottom rack.
- Bake for another 4 minutes.
Results:
- Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/T890QSC0D0#a05C7Vx0BH1m
- Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/Y5TSN47MH4#DVT0yWyTenEV
Dough noticeably thinner than last time.
Salt is dialed in now: 3g is perfect.
Fix typo
The dough ended up too spread out, too big, so I tried to ‘compress’ it a bit, whichcreatescreated wrinkles.
#1563 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoCrust slightly better than last time but still too doughy.
Leaving the broiler on caused the cheese to cook too fast compared to the dough. But moving the pie to the bottom didn’t bake the dough fast enough to make up for that.
#1559 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (100g)
- Mozzarella (part skim, shredded, 130g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 3g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 660°F.
- Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust the pizza peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Add the tomato sauce.
- Add cheese.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
- Bake for 2.5 minutes.
- Turn off broiler and set oven to 450°F.
- Move to bottom rack.
- Bake for another 4 minutes.
Results:
- Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/T890QSC0D0#a05C7Vx0BH1m
- Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/Y5TSN47MH4#DVT0yWyTenEV
Dough noticeably thinner than last time.
Crust slightly better than last time but still too doughy.
Leaving the broiler on caused the cheese to cook too fast compared to the dough. But moving the pie to the bottom didn’t bake the dough fast enough to make up for that.
#1515 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (100g)
- Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 150g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 3-4 dashes of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere between 450 and 500°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 1 hour on gas range (biggest burner). Reached about 565°F in the center.
- Rest dough at room temperature for about 50 min.
- Stretch the dough.
- Add tomato sauce.
- Add cheese.
- Dust the pizza peel with flour and place pizza on peel.
- Place pizza on steel and put in oven.
- Bake for about 5 minutes.
- Move to bottom rack, bake for 3 more minutes.
The main challenge with baking pizza at home is that home ovens don’t get hot enough for the dough to bake properly. The pizza steel is supposed to help with that.
Results (markedly better than last time):
The crust was nice and crispy.
Fifth attempt
4 unchanged lines collapsed- Mozzarella(whole milk,(part skim, shredded,115g)↵ ↵ Then,130g)↵ ↵ Then, for garnish:3 unchanged lines collapsed-4g3g of salt4 unchanged lines collapsed2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about630°F.↵ 3.660°F.↵ 3. Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.8 unchanged lines collapsed12.Turn off broiler.↵ 13.Place dough on steel; still on toprack.↵ 14.rack.↵ 13. Bake for 2.5 minutes.↵ 14. Turn off broiler and set oven to 450°F.↵ 15. Move to bottom rack.↵ 16. Bake for6another 4 minutes.3 unchanged lines collapsed- Top:https://drive.proton.me/urls/NZH3KGHFK4#Ot5GzAmPSSVY↵ -https://drive.proton.me/urls/T890QSC0D0#a05C7Vx0BH1m↵ - Bottom:https://drive.proton.me/urls/5BTWJZWAT8#1I0epT902wJZ↵ ↵ Not quite as good ashttps://drive.proton.me/urls/Y5TSN47MH4#DVT0yWyTenEV↵ ↵ Dough noticeably thinner than last time.I overcompensated and the center wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.↵ ↵ The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.↵ ↵ Waiting for the dough to reach room temp before stretching makes a big difference; much easier.↵ ↵ I got the bottom down, I usually get a nice leopard print. What I need to work on is getting the center thin enough (but not too thin) and the crust crispier.
According to this site, making the crust thinner should make it crispier.
4 unchanged lines collapsed- Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded,114g)↵ ↵ Then,115g)↵ ↵ Then, for garnish:34 unchanged lines collapsed
#1555 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (100g)
- Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 114g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 4g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
- Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust the pizza peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Add the tomato sauce.
- Add cheese.
- Turn off broiler.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
- Bake for 6 minutes.
Results:
- Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/NZH3KGHFK4#Ot5GzAmPSSVY
- Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/5BTWJZWAT8#1I0epT902wJZ
Not quite as good as last time. I overcompensated and the center wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.
The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.
Waiting for the dough to reach room temp before stretching makes a big difference; much easier.
I got the bottom down, I usually get a nice leopard print. What I need to work on is getting the center thin enough (but not too thin) and the crust crispier.
Center could have slightly thinner.
36 unchanged lines collapsedThe dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not surewhy.why.↵ ↵ Waiting for the dough to reach room temp before stretching makes a big difference; much easier.↵ ↵ I got the bottom down, I usually get a nice leopard print. What I need to work on is getting the center thin enough (but not too thin) and the crust crispier.
34 unchanged lines collapsedNot quite as good as last time. I overcompensated and thebottomcenter wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy. The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.
#1551 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (100g)
- Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 114g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 4g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
- Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust the pizza peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Add the tomato sauce.
- Add cheese.
- Turn off broiler.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
- Bake for 6 minutes.
Results:
- Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/NZH3KGHFK4#Ot5GzAmPSSVY
- Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/5BTWJZWAT8#1I0epT902wJZ
Not quite as good as last time. I overcompensated and the bottom wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.
The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.
Place on steel more carefully so it comes out circular.
#1551 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoIngredients
- Store-bought dough (1 pound)
- Crushed tomatoes (100g)
- Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 114g)
Then, for garnish:
- Oregano
- Fresh basil leaves
- 4g of salt
Steps
- Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
- Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
- Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
- Add salt to the tomato sauce.
- Grate cheese.
- Stretch the dough.
- Dust the pizza peel with flour.
- Remove excess flour from dough.
- Place dough on peel.
- Add the tomato sauce.
- Add cheese.
- Turn off broiler.
- Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
- Bake for 6 minutes.
Results:
- Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/NZH3KGHFK4#Ot5GzAmPSSVY
- Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/5BTWJZWAT8#1I0epT902wJZ
Not quite as good as last time. I overcompensated and the bottom wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.
The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.
Still too salty. Try 3g next time.
Fourth try
4 unchanged lines collapsed- Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded,150g)↵ ↵ Then,114g)↵ ↵ Then, for garnish:3 unchanged lines collapsed-5g4g of salt3 unchanged lines collapsed1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewherebetween 450 and 500°F.↵ 2.around 450°F.↵ 2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about620°F.↵ 3.630°F.↵ 3. Rest doughat room temperature for about 1.5 hours. It felt likeuntil ithad reached aboutreaches roomtemp.↵ 4.temperature.↵ 4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.7 unchanged lines collapsed12. Turn off broiler.↵ 13. Place dough on steel; still on toprack with the broiler on.↵ 13.rack.↵ 14. Bake for2.5 minutes.↵ 14. Take out to add cheese.↵ 15. Move to bottom rack for another 2.5 minutes.↵ 16. Move back to top rack for 1 min.↵ ↵ Results (markedly better again than last time):↵ ↵ -6 minutes.↵ ↵ Results:↵ ↵ - Top:https://drive.proton.me/urls/R5NC0NVP1M#lEvW9YodqSZR↵ -https://drive.proton.me/urls/NZH3KGHFK4#Ot5GzAmPSSVY↵ - Bottom:https://drive.proton.me/urls/RYQPFZJSCR#LQKeZiiTbp9G↵ - Bottom (another slice): https://drive.proton.me/urls/N7VM0C48P8#XSP9bVZUyxUz↵ ↵ Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. Ifhttps://drive.proton.me/urls/5BTWJZWAT8#1I0epT902wJZ↵ ↵ Not quite as good as last time. Iput the steel onovercompensated and the bottomrack (whichwasn’t thin enough. The crust isdirectly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on,my weakest skill, ithovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.↵ ↵ Thetasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.↵ ↵ The doughcame out really good this time. Itwaslightnice andfluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it –circular this time until Ithink that’s whyplaced it on the pizza steel. It gotso hard last time.↵ ↵ I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.kinda skewed, not sure why.
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