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#5618·Jad Elmourad, about 4 hours agoI showed Jad these results privately and he didn’t have a good answer
My actual reply to this was to bring up the questions from #5617 about what "AI-generated" signifies. Specifically, I asked "What does Pangram consider AI edits to be?", to which Dennis replied "I don't think they disclose that."
After that, I tried to make progress towards common ground by raising the deeper issue. I said:
Hmm, maybe we mean different things, so what do you think qualifies as an appropriate use of AI / using AI to edit vs an inappropriate use?
To which, Dennis replied by re-iterating that the bounty terms are clear that no AI must be used, but that didn't address the deeper issue I was trying to raise. I was trying to distinguish between different kinds of AI use in the context of what it means to have done the intellectual work necessary to earn the reward, see #5615.
Veritula discussion trees can’t accurately reflect problematic vs unproblematic ideas when unreasonable people are involved, see #5624. Submitting this as a fix. Jad agrees to terms, breaks them, then wants to argue the purpose and meaning of them. That’s arbitrary, ie the opposite of reason and Veritula. He will no doubt claim he was just trying to follow the Veritula method of addressing criticisms, but the effect is that he’s turning Veritula on its head in the process. There’s no point discussing with people like him.