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  Dennis Hackethal posted idea #4274.

Should comments be sorted by controversial/uncontroversial first, date second?

  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #4270.

social_intell on IG says the way to distinguish between genuine interest and polite dismissal is specificity.

If someone says ‘keep me posted on that’ or ‘we should hang out sometime’, that’s vague; they’re politely ending the conversation. If you do follow up with them, you’re outing yourself as low value and socially incompetent.

If they really want you to follow up, or if they really want to hang out again, they’ll be specific: ‘let me introduce you to my colleague Peter, he can solve your problem, what’s your email?’, or ‘are you free next Wednesday at 7?’

social_intell on IG says the way to distinguish between genuine interest and polite dismissal is specificity.

If someone says ‘keep me posted on that’ or ‘we should hang out sometime’, that’s vague; they’re politely ending the conversation. If you do follow up with them, you’re outing yourself as low value and socially incompetent.

If they really want you to follow up, or if they really want to hang out again, they’ll be specific and create action: ‘let me introduce you to my colleague Peter, he can solve your problem, what’s your email?’, or ‘are you free next Wednesday at 7?’

  Dennis Hackethal posted idea #4271.

Daniel Vassallo says to give, give, give, give before you ask. In other words, provide much more value than you hope to get from others. Only then can you realistically expect anything back.

  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #4268. The revision addresses idea #4269.

social_intell on IG says the way to distinguish between genuine interest and polite dismissal is specificity.

If someone says ‘keep me posted on that’ or ‘we should hang out sometime’, that’s vague; they’re politely ending the conversation. If you do follow up with them, you’re outing yourself as low value and socially incompetent.

If they really want you to follow up, or if they really want to hang out again, they’ll be specific: ‘let me introduce you to my colleague Peter, he can solve your problem, what’s your email?’, or ‘are you free next Wednesday at 7?’

social_intell on IG says the way to distinguish between genuine interest and polite dismissal is specificity.

If someone says ‘keep me posted on that’ or ‘we should hang out sometime’, that’s vague; they’re politely ending the conversation. If you do follow up with them, you’re outing yourself as low value and socially incompetent.

If they really want you to follow up, or if they really want to hang out again, they’ll be specific: ‘let me introduce you to my colleague Peter, he can solve your problem, what’s your email?’, or ‘are you free next Wednesday at 7?’

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #4268.

social_intell on IG says the way to distinguish between genuine interest and polite dismissal is specificity.

If someone says ‘keep me posted on that’ or ‘we should hang out sometime’, that’s vague; they’re politely ending the conversation. If you do follow up with them, you’re outing yourself as low value and socially incompetent.

If they really want you to follow up, or if they really want to hang out again, they’ll be specific: ‘let me introduce you to my colleague Peter, he can solve your problem, what’s your email?’, or ‘are you free next Wednesday at 7?’

#4268​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 20 days ago
  Dennis Hackethal posted idea #4268.

social_intell on IG says the way to distinguish between genuine interest and polite dismissal is specificity.

If someone says ‘keep me posted on that’ or ‘we should hang out sometime’, that’s vague; they’re politely ending the conversation. If you do follow up with them, you’re outing yourself as low value and socially incompetent.

If they really want you to follow up, or if they really want to hang out again, they’ll be specific: ‘let me introduce you to my colleague Peter, he can solve your problem, what’s your email?’, or ‘are you free next Wednesday at 7?’

  Dennis Hackethal posted criticism #4267.

Composing a top-level idea on mobile is atrocious. Need to scroll all the way down to see the form, the form keeps hiding itself, etc.

  Dennis Hackethal posted idea #4266.

When somebody asks what you do for a living, there’s two layers to this question, according to IG account social_intell.

One layer is surface: taking the question literally, answering literally like ‘I’m a project manager at company X.'

But social_intell says they’re really gauging your status and whether you extract or provide value. You should explain what problem you can solve for people and what you’re building: eg “I help companies build products people actually want. What about you?”

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #4264.

Another rule of thumb: in verbal group conversations, like in Twitter spaces, keep an eye on speakers’ average mic time and try not to go above that. (Realistically, that means undershooting the average, because you’re liable to underestimate your own mic time.) Consistently going above will come off as rambling or dominating.

#4264​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 20 days ago

I forget if I came up with this myself or if I read this somewhere.

  Dennis Hackethal posted idea #4264.

Another rule of thumb: in verbal group conversations, like in Twitter spaces, keep an eye on speakers’ average mic time and try not to go above that. (Realistically, that means undershooting the average, because you’re liable to underestimate your own mic time.) Consistently going above will come off as rambling or dominating.

  Dennis Hackethal started a discussion titled ‘Social Skills’.

I’m kind of socially retarded, but explicit study of social skills has helped. Here are some things I’ve learned.

The discussion starts with idea #4263.

I read Atomic Attraction years ago but I remember liking it. I’ve spoken to the author, Christopher Canwell. As I recall, he argues that the ratio between gray and blue text bubbles should be roughly 1:1. As a rule of thumb.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #2753.

Idea: Veritula Articles

Currently, Veritula is a discussion website. I believe it could one day do what Wikipedia and Grokipedia do, but better.

A step towards that would be enabling users to produce ‘articles’ or something similar.

An ‘Articles’ tab would be distinct from the ‘Discussions’ tab, featuring explanatory documents similar to encyclopedia entries, and perhaps also blogpost-like content.

Articles focus on distilling the good ideas created/discovered in the discussions that occur on Veritula.

#2753​·​Benjamin Davies revised 4 months ago

Another idea: letting users post ideas to their own profile. Such ideas wouldn’t be part of a discussion.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4257.

Those are still spatial metaphors. I'm not saying we can't extend our ideas through imagination, creativity etc. Only that the metaphors and concepts we use/have meaning for us, are constrained by the perspectives we can take as humans. When we try to explain how bats perceive through echolocation, we fall back on visual simulations, because sight is the only perceptual world we know. Ideas have a similar limitation

#4257​·​Knut Sondre Sæbø revised 22 days ago

I'm not saying we can't extend our ideas through imagination, creativity etc.

That’s what you were originally saying in #3626. That’s what the claim “Living according to reason and rationality alone is impossible” amounts to.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4254.

We explain the world by postulating invisible things, but we can only understand those abstractions through concrete metaphors rooted in our physical experience. A concept or idea with no experiential grounding is meaningless.

#4254​·​Knut Sondre Sæbø, 22 days ago

A concept or idea with no experiential grounding is meaningless.

Maybe, but that’s different from confusing a parochial factor for a fundamental one.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4254.

We explain the world by postulating invisible things, but we can only understand those abstractions through concrete metaphors rooted in our physical experience. A concept or idea with no experiential grounding is meaningless.

#4254​·​Knut Sondre Sæbø, 22 days ago

Not all explanations use metaphors.

  Knut Sondre Sæbø revised criticism #4256.

Those are still spatial metaphors. I'm not saying we can't extend our ideas through imagination, creativity etc. Only that the metaphors and concepts we use/have meaning for us, are constrained by the perspectives we can take as humans. When we try to explain how bats perceive through echolocation, we fall back on visual simulations, because sight is the only perceptual world we know.

Those are still spatial metaphors. I'm not saying we can't extend our ideas through imagination, creativity etc. Only that the metaphors and concepts we use/have meaning for us, are constrained by the perspectives we can take as humans. When we try to explain how bats perceive through echolocation, we fall back on visual simulations, because sight is the only perceptual world we know. Ideas have a similar limitation

  Knut Sondre Sæbø revised idea #4255 and marked it as a criticism.

Those are just spacial metaphors though. I'm not saying we can't extend our ideas through imagination, creativity etc. Only that the metaphors and concepts we use/have meaning for us, are constrained by the perspectives we can take as humans. Can you think of any ideas that isn't rooted in an experiential perspective?

Those are still spatial metaphors. I'm not saying we can't extend our ideas through imagination, creativity etc. Only that the metaphors and concepts we use/have meaning for us, are constrained by the perspectives we can take as humans. When we try to explain how bats perceive through echolocation, we fall back on visual simulations, because sight is the only perceptual world we know.

  Knut Sondre Sæbø commented on criticism #3769.

Humans use flight-related words even though we can’t fly. From ChatGPT:

  • Elevated (thinking, mood, language)
  • High-level (ideas, overview)
  • Soar (ambitions, prices, imagination)
  • Take off (projects, careers)
  • Grounded (arguments, people)
  • Up in the air (uncertain)
  • Overview (“over-see” from above)
  • Perspective (originally spatial vantage point)
  • Lofty (ideals, goals)
  • Aboveboard (open, visible)
  • Rise / fall (status, power, ideas)
  • Sky-high (expectations, costs)
  • Aerial view (conceptual overview)
  • Head in the clouds (impractical thinking)
#3769​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Those are just spacial metaphors though. I'm not saying we can't extend our ideas through imagination, creativity etc. Only that the metaphors and concepts we use/have meaning for us, are constrained by the perspectives we can take as humans. Can you think of any ideas that isn't rooted in an experiential perspective?

  Knut Sondre Sæbø addressed criticism #3768.

I think that depends on the "embodiment" of the AGI; that is, what it's like to be that AGI and how its normal world appears.

Yeah maybe but again (#3693), those are parochial factors, starting points. Ideas are more important. AGI could just switch bodies rapidly anyway.

#3768​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

We explain the world by postulating invisible things, but we can only understand those abstractions through concrete metaphors rooted in our physical experience. A concept or idea with no experiential grounding is meaningless.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #4251.

But the criticisms don’t try to find out how easy to vary the Persephone myth is. Nor do we try to find out how hard to vary the axis-tilt theory is.

#4251​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 22 days ago

Basically, a small part of the notion of ‘easy to vary’ gets to live on in Veritula as an approximation, as Popper would phrase it.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4250.

But some of the criticisms basically say that the Persephone myth is “easy to vary”.

#4250​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 22 days ago

That’s only some of the criticisms though. Others have nothing to do with easy/hard to vary.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4250.

But some of the criticisms basically say that the Persephone myth is “easy to vary”.

#4250​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 22 days ago

But the criticisms don’t try to find out how easy to vary the Persephone myth is. Nor do we try to find out how hard to vary the axis-tilt theory is.

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #4249.

@liberty-fitz-claridge take a look at this discussion as a whole. At the time of writing, the Persephone myth (#4240) has 5 pending criticisms, whereas the axis-tilt theory (#4243) has no pending criticisms. Hence a rational preference for the latter: Veritula says to reject ideas with pending criticisms and adopt those without.

#4249​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 22 days ago

But some of the criticisms basically say that the Persephone myth is “easy to vary”.

  Dennis Hackethal posted idea #4249.

@liberty-fitz-claridge take a look at this discussion as a whole. At the time of writing, the Persephone myth (#4240) has 5 pending criticisms, whereas the axis-tilt theory (#4243) has no pending criticisms. Hence a rational preference for the latter: Veritula says to reject ideas with pending criticisms and adopt those without.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #4246.

If any prediction of this theory is found to be false, we could easily change it to make different predictions. That’s bad.

If any prediction of this theory is found to be false, we can easily change it to make different predictions. That’s bad.