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Dennis HackethalOP·​#5028·​
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I’m pro abortion but I have some pro life in me.

Banning the abortion of a zygote seems ridiculous. So does aborting a seven-month-old fetus.

Why not go with: you can abort until the nervous system develops.

Clearly, an embryo without a nervous system can’t be sentient and thus can’t be a person, right? And as long as it’s not a person, it doesn’t have any rights.

According to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK542179/, “CNS [central-nervous-system] development begins during the 3rd week of embryogenesis…”

This idea is for viable pregnancies only. Other considerations may apply for non-viable ones.

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#146·​·​Criticism
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While the fetus is attached to the mother, it’s her property and she is free to do what she wants with it. Therefore, she can abort the baby at any time prior to being born and the umbilical being cut, at which point the baby is an independent person.

(John)

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#117·​·​Criticism

If the baby is a person, the mother has a responsibility to it. She can’t just be allowed to kill it. That makes no sense.

(Danny)

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#123·​·​Criticism

Physical (in)dependence isn’t a valid yardstick because it does not confer rights. The only thing that confers rights to an organism is personhood.

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#153·​·​Criticism

Once the fetus is a person, it can’t be property.

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#154·​·​Criticism
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Building on #123, cutting the umbilical does not make the baby an “independent person”. The baby still depends on the parents physically, financially, emotionally, etc.

This mistake strikes me as an instance of the wider mistake of granting or withholding rights based on physical differences.

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#156·​·​Criticism

Obligations to care for another person seem illiberal and coercive.

(John)

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