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If the fetus has "developed a nervous system" but is not yet capable of surviving outside the mother (even with all the technological knowledge of medicine), why should the mother have an obligation to carry it to term?

#201 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 11 months ago · context · CriticismCriticized3 criticim(s)

A baby with a nervous system may be a person and thus have rights.

#202 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 11 months ago · Criticism of #201

having rights doesn't mean you get to be supported by others that don't want to support you

#216 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 11 months ago · Criticism of #202Criticized1 criticim(s)

It does when those others are responsible for your position. See #133, #138, #172, #203.

#218 · · Dennis HackethalOP revised 11 months ago · 2nd of 2 versions · Criticism of #216
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Except in cases of rape, the mother is responsible for the baby’s existence.

#203 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 11 months ago · Criticism of #201
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That the baby can’t survive outside the womb sounds like an additional reason to carry to term, not a reason not to do it.

#204 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 11 months ago · Criticism of #201

it's not a reason in one direction or another, if other people are willing to save the baby and take care of it that seems like a win-win

#220 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 11 months ago · Criticism of #204Criticized2 criticim(s)

You had originally described (#201) a situation where the fetus “is not yet capable of surviving outside the mother (even with all the technological knowledge of medicine)”, meaning premature delivery would be impossible.

#221 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 11 months ago · Criticism of #220
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If, contrary to #221, premature delivery is possible and others want to “save the baby and take care of it”, then sure, go ahead as long as there are no downsides for the baby. But that’s not abortion, so I don’t see how this stance is a criticism of my abortion stance. Abortion means the baby dies.

#223 · · Dennis HackethalOP revised 11 months ago · 2nd of 2 versions · Criticism of #220
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