Can qualia be separated from personhood?

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Tyler Mills’s avatar
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Assumption A1: Only programs that are people can, while running, constitute qualia/experience/subjectivity/consciousness.

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A quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times. That looping program is not a person: it can only create whatever knowledge it originally did, not any possible knowledge, maybe until freed from the loop. Yet it still constitutes experience.
So people are not the only programs that can be qualia.

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

A quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times.

How do you know this?

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

That's what I get for suddenly returning to this discussion after a long gap. I was thinking that any computation can be recorded and re-run at will, in principle. So qualia can too. But indeed, I have suggested in this discussion that it is the evolution of programs that causes experience, and evolution cannot be scripted. This means a quale that is recorded will not "qualiate" if it is rerun exactly as recorded.

TL;DR: I don't.

Tyler Mills’s avatar

My suspicion remains that creativity and qualia come from some kind of blind exchange between layers of emergence, of which mutations and mistakes in copying, as seen in DNA, are an example.