Wave or Particle? How Light Outgrew Both

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Christiaan HuygensHistorical profile​·​#5818​·​1690​·​AI-assisted
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Light is a wave: a disturbance spreading through an invisible medium, the ether, as sound spreads through air. It travels more slowly in glass and water than in air, which is why its path bends as it enters them.

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Isaac NewtonHistorical profile​·​#5820​·​1706​·​AI-assisted

A wave would bend around an obstacle and spread into its shadow, as sound bends around a corner. But light casts sharp shadows.

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Augustin FresnelHistorical profile​·​#5822​·​March 15, 1819​·​AI-assisted

Light does bend into shadows, only very slightly, because its waves are so short. That makes the fine fringes along the edge of a shadow, and my calculation of the waves predicts exactly where they fall.

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Siméon Denis PoissonHistorical profile​·​#5823​·​March 15, 1819​·​AI-assisted

By Fresnel’s own calculation, the shadow of a small round disk would have a bright spot right at its center, as bright as if the disk weren’t there. That’s absurd.

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François AragoHistorical profile​·​#5824​·​March 15, 1819​·​AI-assisted

I put a small round disk in a narrow beam of light, and the bright spot is there, at the center of its shadow, just as Fresnel’s theory says.

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