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Do you have examples of such algorithms?

#3562​·​Erik Orrje, 3 months ago

If the court can force people to be jurors because it needs jurors, why can’t it also force people to be judges, lawyers, prosecutors, etc? Why can’t it force carpenters to make tables, chairs, and gavels? Etc. Why draw the line at jurors? Seems absurd.

#3560​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Interesting. Do you think the conflict is always between short vs long-term preferences, or could there be addictive conflicts between two short-term preferences or even two long-term preferences?

#3558​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago

When you have program [sic] you can test a concept (incl. whether it is sufficiently defined to allow a program in the first place). But the other way around does not work: "If one does not have a program, then the concept is underspecified".

That isn’t what I said anyway. No disrespect but frankly I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

I didn’t read the rest of your comment because you keep talking instead of coding. I’ll delete any further comments of yours that don’t contain code that at least tries to meet the bounty terms.

#3556​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Isn't every theory infinitely underspecified ?

No. For example, the theory of addition is sufficiently specified: we have enough info to implement an algorithm of addition on a computer, then run it, test it, correct errors with it, and so on.

#3553​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3550​·​Criticism

We’re getting off topic. I’m currently running a bounty requesting a working implementation of HTV.

If you think you can beat the bounty, do it. I’m not interested in anything else for now.

#3552​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Also, I would think that criteria for sufficiency must always be subjective ones (e.g. a working computerprogram [sic] cannot be itself a proof of meeting an some objective sufficiency criterium)?

No, there are objective criteria.

#3551​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

The mistake is insufficiency. If someone gives you a recipe for baking a cake but doesn’t specify ingredients or bake time, that’s a problem.

#3548​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

"HTV is underspecified by Deutsch"

That isn’t a quote. Don’t put things in quotation marks unless they are literal quotations or obviously scare quotes.

#3546​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

It’s a criticism. Deutsch says to use HTV but never explains in sufficient detail how to do that.

#3545​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

That’s only one of several criticisms.

#3544​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Elaboration:

The conflict in addiction is between short-term and long-term solutions.

The preference for short-term in addiction is caused by uncertainty/an inability to make predictions based on explanations.

This uncertainty can be real (e.g. increased heroin addiction during the Vietnam War) or learned from insecurity during one's early years.

#3542​·​Erik Orrje, 3 months ago

I think Lucas is right to reject that fragmentation but I don’t think it happens in the first place.

CR universally describes the growth of knowledge as error correction. When such error correction leads to correspondence with the facts (about the physical world), we call that science. When it doesn’t, we call it something else, like art or engineering or skill-building.

It’s all still error correction. There is no fragmentation due to correspondence.

#3541​·​Ragnar Danneskjöld revised 3 months ago​·​Original #2340

I think Lucas is right to reject that fragmentation but I don’t think it happens in the first place.

CR universally describes the growth of knowledge as error correction. When such error correction leads to correspondence with the facts (about the physical world), we call that science. When it doesn’t, we call it something else, like art or engineering or skill-building.

It’s all still error correction. There is no fragmentation due to correspondence.

#3539​·​Ragnar Danneskjöld revised 3 months ago​·​Original #2340

Criticising HTV would anyway be the more important first step. Maybe examples of good theories with some ETV aspects (compared to rejected theories) in them could reveal some more.

That could work, yeah. What other criticisms of HTV can you think of?

#3538​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago

To make a new version of #3516, revise the idea. See that pencil button?

#3537​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Criticising HTV would anyway be the more important first step.

The linked blog post has several criticisms of HTV.

#3536​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Deutsch’s “hard to vary” is a guideline for criticizing explanations, not a step by step decision algorithm.

But he says to use hard to vary as part of a decision-making algorithm. As quoted in my blog post:

“we should choose between [explanations] according to how good they are…: how hard to vary.”

#3532​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Hey Fitz, welcome to Veritula.

I realize that DD doesn’t think of it in strict, procedural terms, but I just don’t think that’s good enough, for several reasons. One is that it’s too vague, as I explain here. We don’t know how to actually do anything he says to do, beyond broad suggestions.

#3531​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

For something to be a core virtue, it needs to be a virtue that should always be applied in any situation where it can be applied. Forgiveness is not something that should be applied in all relevant situations, so I don’t believe it is a core virtue.

At best it would be an applied virtue, as an expression of Justice.

I actually think people are too forgiving in some ways.

I’ll think about adding it to the applied virtues list.

#3528​·​Dennis Hackethal revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3167​·​Criticism

Bounties are epistemologically relevant.

Let’s say you post a high bounty for some idea and your terms are reasonable. If there are no pending criticisms when the bounty ends, maybe that’s because it’s a good idea.

Scientists, philosophers, anyone who’s serious about ideas, should run bounties.

#3526​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3525

In practice, yeah, but the end goal is decentralised ownership and control. According to the Britannica dictionary:

"Like most writers of the 19th century, Marx tended to use the terms communism and socialism interchangeably. In his Critique of the Gotha Programme (1875), however, Marx identified two phases of communism that would follow the predicted overthrow of capitalism: the first would be a transitional system in which the working class would control the government and economy yet still find it necessary to pay people according to how long, hard, or well they worked, and the second would be fully realized communism—a society without class divisions or government, in which the production and distribution of goods would be based upon the principle “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” Marx’s followers, especially the Russian revolutionary Vladimir Ilich Lenin, took up this distinction.""

https://www.britannica.com/topic/communism

#3523​·​Erik Orrje, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Some minds with lots of coercive memes are more like dictatorships.

Doesn’t a dictatorship mean there’s only a single actor at the top? If there’s lots of coercive memes, that sounds like multiple actors.

#3521​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Ah, I see what you mean.

Cool, would you say then that it is only in empirical fields we can deduce facts/truth?

No, we can deduce truth from theories in any field.

I’d only call something a ‘fact’ in an empirical field. Like, I wouldn’t call a philosophical truth a ‘fact’.

It is a fact that I had sweet potatoes for lunch today. It’s true that children shouldn’t be forced to go to school.

But that might be more of a quibble about words than an important epistemological distinction.

#3520​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Hayek was a terrible writer. Convoluted, hard to understand.

For example, as quoted by Twitter account F. A. Hayek Quotes:

The more a man indulges in the propensity to blame others or circumstances for his failures, the more disgruntled and ineffective he tends to become.

He could have just said ‘blaming others makes you unhappy and weak’. But he chose complicated language, presumably to impress people.

Makes me think he didn’t have much of substance to say.

He was also sloppy at quoting: https://blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/investigating-hayek-s-misquotes

#3513​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism