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#4614​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 10 days ago​·​Criticism

I see no perspective in communication with ones who found it discomfortable to retrospect frames of own perspective.

That isn’t what’s happening here. There are dozens of examples on V of me being self-critical.

You’re being passive aggressive, which further sabotages debate. You also ignored my request to take a break for a day or two, and to be less spammy (I just opened V to 16 new notifications from you after a short amount of time), contrary to your own statement that you see no point in discussing with me – which makes no sense.

I’m locking your account for a week. You may return in 7 days. If you then continue disregarding the forum rules, I will ban you permanently. Review them here: #4460

#4613​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 10 days ago​·​Criticism

freedom of association

It doesn't appears out of nowhere. Freedom is the consequence of an ability to withstand, the power, resources to elaborate and protect such consensus, and maintain it. If you are ready to pay the price, and have the resources.

#4612​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 10 days ago​·​Original #4611

freedom of association

It doesn't appears out of nowhere. Freedom is the consequence of an ability to withstand, the power, resources to elaborate and protect such consensus, and maintain it.

#4611​·​Yurii Pytomets, 10 days ago

There's a lot of meanings for this word: mathematical (structural), logical induction, epistemological one (anti-unification aka generalization, abduction). BTW it's interesting: how do you see the abduction: do you have a precise definition in mind?

Could you refer something specific for a brief introduction to the Popper's conclusions, which ones most interesting and important from your perspective?

#4590​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 10 days ago​·​Original #4589

There's a lot of meaning for this word: mathematical (structural), logical induction, epistemological one (anti-unification aka generalization, abduction). BTW it's interesting: how do you see the abduction: do you have a precise definition in mind?

Could you refer something specific for a brief introduction to the Popper's conclusions, which ones most interesting and important from your perspective?

#4589​·​Yurii Pytomets, 10 days ago

If rationality and peace required unlimited resources and time, you’d be at war all the time, because resources and time are always limited. But you’re not at war all the time. So rationality and peace can’t require unlimited resources and time.

They require things like openness to debate, creativity, freedom of association, etc.

#4588​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 10 days ago​·​Criticism Battle tested

I haven't advocating the consistency. But could you be more specific, which one?

#4587​·​Yurii Pytomets, 10 days ago

No. You’re polluting Veritula with incoherent ramblings. Veritula is meant for serious philosophical work, not navel-gazing.

We have a rule (#4460) against behavior that sabotages debate and progress. Your ramblings are derailing debate. The amount of posts in such a short amount of time is also borderline spammy.

Take a break for a day or two. Be selective about what you respond to. Keep your posts short. And stop rambling.

#4586​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 10 days ago

There's nothing bad in death. But that's an existential disaster -- to not live.

Do you not see the blatant contradictions in your own writing?

#4585​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 10 days ago​·​Criticism

[T]here's 4B years of pretty reliable statistics.

This is induction, see Popper.

#4584​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 10 days ago​·​Criticism

And so for real-world rational subject there inevitable appears necessity of competition, ability to lie, on addition to the cooperation.

#4583​·​Yurii Pytomets, 10 days ago

What do you think about such acts as an example of manifestation of the intelligence, abilities to:
- Perceive
- Ask
- Lie
- Joke
- Change

#4582​·​Yurii Pytomets, 10 days ago

Okay, it looks like, counter-argumenting isn't enough to make a more interesting model by eliminating contradictions, let's try to find a common ground constructively, and use them as a fruitful source of improvement possibilities, I hope you do not perceive my, a bit informal way of express counter-arguments, personally, but as a valuable opportunity to test and improve worldview, as so do I, or just because of curiosity, anyway there's no reason to protect any fragile theory, except for a practice and for a cognitive workout purpose. So, back to the point: how your worldview model deals with Kuhn's stance of epistemic's non-monotonic nature? Do you have some formal semantic/logic in mind? Intuitionistic/nonmonotonic/relevance/modal, in particular epistemic/doxastic/temporal logics? There's pretty interesting matching and reachability logics: http://www.matching-logic.org . The https://cis.temple.edu/~pwang/NARS-Intro.html model looks promising. But there's a lot of opportunities to improve/overcome computation complexity issues (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_explosion), and probably re-imagining, what computers are -- could be the key (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer). I agree with the take that only proofs counts which possible to run on the computer. But at the end, any computer or any person -- are just phenomenons at reality, not available for the direct observation and verification, so, after all, at the end -- it's all just vibes around the silent essence.

#4580​·​Yurii Pytomets, 10 days ago

The certainty that one able to know something in advance.
The root of all kind of discriminations and profanity, for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice

#4579​·​Yurii Pytomets, 11 days ago

Agree, you right, accepting the mistake.
Would you like to tell more what you found important from the Popper's work?

#4578​·​Yurii Pytomets, 11 days ago
#4577​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 11 days ago​·​Original #4576

As you wish.

#4576​·​Yurii Pytomets, 11 days ago

prejudgment

Unclear what this means.

#4565​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 11 days ago​·​Criticism

Is prejudgment and conformism any good?

I’m not advocating conformism.

#4564​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 11 days ago​·​Criticism

What you describe sounds more like Kuhn’s stance, not Popper’s.

#4563​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 11 days ago​·​Criticism

Even if that were true, that doesn’t mean we need to endure unhappiness or stasis until then.

#4562​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 11 days ago​·​Criticism

Not necessarily, no. It’s a soluble problem.

#4561​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 11 days ago​·​Criticism

This isn’t a criticism.

#4560​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 11 days ago​·​Criticism

Am I? That happens. Would you?

#4559​·​Yurii Pytomets, 11 days ago