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See here. Lucas had asked:

Can you say more about why we need correspondence to make sense of the concept of self-similarity? I don't see why. And it seems to me that self-similarity is all we need to make sense of the universality of computation.

My response below. For others reading this, Erik has also since started a dedicated discussion on the topic of correspondence: https://veritula.com/discussions/is-correspondence-true-in-cr


The FoR glossary entry on self-similarity from chapter 4 reads:

self-similarity Some parts of physical reality (such as symbols, pictures or human thoughts) resemble other parts. The resemblance may be concrete, as when the images in a planetarium resemble the night sky; more importantly, it may be abstract, as when a statement in quantum theory printed in a book correctly explains an aspect of the structure of the multiverse.

The way I read that, it means the images in the planetarium correspond to the night sky. Otherwise we wouldn’t consider them similar.

From chapter 6, on the universality of computation and how “various parts of reality can resemble one another”:

The set of all behaviours and responses of that one object exactly mirrors the set of all behaviours and responses of all other physically possible objects and processes.

That means there is one-to-one correspondence between the behaviors and responses of the first object and those of all the other objects. This is basically another way to describe the self-similarity property of the universe.

From chapter 10, in the context of mathematics (italics mine):

… the physical behaviour of the symbols corresponds to the behaviour of the abstractions they denote.

(The same is true of the physical parts of a Turing machine harnessing the self-similarity property of the universe to correspond to other physical objects.)

From chapter 14, in the context of the creation of scientific knowledge (which, AFAIK, DD views as increasing correspondence):

The creation of useful knowledge by science … must be understood as the emergence of the self-similarity that is mandated by a principle of physics, the Turing principle.

It’s been ages since I read FoR so I’m relying on word searches in the ebook but it’s full of these links between self-similarity and correspondence.

#2407·Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago

a knowledge

I don’t think it’s correct to use the word ‘knowledge’ with an indeterminate article (meaning ‘a’ or ‘an’).

You could say ‘Finding problems that some knowledge addresses…’

#2406·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

Superseded by #2395.

#2405·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

Presumably, Zelalem wanted to delete the idea. Veritula purposely doesn’t have that functionality. In the future, Zelalem, just leave the idea and criticize it for being outdated or superseded or whatever reason you have for rejecting it.

#2403·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago

When we try to solve a problem, we might find out that we've already solved it, but that only happens after we have looked at the problem.

That still means we solved the problem before we encountered it.

I understand you want to stress that we usually solve a problem after we identify it. Your text already covers that. So I’d still just remove the sentence “We can't solve a problem we haven't encountered yet.” because it’s not true.

#2402·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

What happened here?

#2401·Benjamin Davies, 4 months ago

Right and it’s not.

#2400·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

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#2396·Zelalem MekonnenOP revised 4 months ago·Original #2394·Criticism

We can't solve a problem we haven't encountered yet.

Some theories have enough reach to solve problems we haven’t encountered or even considered yet. I would just remove this sentence.

#2388·Dennis Hackethal revised 4 months ago·Original #2384·Criticism

…because all knowledge contains errors.

This isn’t true, see #2374.

#2386·Dennis Hackethal revised 4 months ago·Original #2381·Criticism

Should credit Popper where applicable (with a disclaimer that any errors are yours, if you want to be careful).

#2385·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

Knowledge, therefore, grows by addressing the errors we encounter as we encounter them.

The part “as we encounter them” implies that we address every error the minute we find it. That isn’t true. Some errors take a long time to address. We also have to prioritize some errors over others because they are more important or more urgent or both.

#2383·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

Knowledge, therefore, grows by addressing the errors we encounter as we encounter them.

Remove ‘therefore’

#2382·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

I would prioritize clarity over sounding poetic.

#2380·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

“Bitcoin is not backed by anything” can also be stated as “Bitcoin is not redeemable in anything”.

“POW” or “computational work” or “encryption” are not things you can redeem if you own bitcoin.

This is in contrast to gold-backed currencies, for example, which are currencies which can be redeemed in gold. The United States Federal Reserve Note only became fiat when it was no longer redeemable in gold.

#2378·Benjamin Davies revised 4 months ago·Original #2377·Criticism

obviously obvious

Did you mean to say ‘obviously true’?

#2375·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

Fallibilism is the idea that all of our knowledge contains errors…

This is a common mischaracterization of fallibilism. It’s actually a form of cynicism. See https://blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/don-t-take-fallibilism-too-far

In reality, fallibilism is the view that there is no criterion to say with certainty what’s true and what’s false; that, as a result, we inevitably make mistakes; and that some of our knowledge is mistaken at any given time. But not all of it.

#2374·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism

Bitcoin is backed by POW or computational work or encryption.

#2372·Zelalem Mekonnen, 4 months ago

Bitcoin (and by extension Zcash) does not solve fiat. A key problem of fiat is that it isn’t backed by anything. Bitcoin isn’t backed my anything, and as far as I know, neither is Zcash.

#2369·Benjamin Davies revised 4 months ago·Original #2368·Criticism

Fixed as of v5.

#2367·Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago·Criticism

Sure it's hard to see. But I don't think it's impossible. For example, life could spread beyond the biosphere by asteroids, or aviating organisms slowly ascending upwards to eventually set off to space. Unlikely for sure, but again, why would it be impossible?

#2366·Erik OrrjeOP, 4 months ago·Criticism

Guess: All those "facts about reality" are just knowledge about regularities in the gene's environment. Some regularities are more context-independent than others, but we can't draw a firm line between parochial knowledge of its niche and knowledge corresponding to the facts.

#2358·Erik OrrjeOP, 4 months ago

Veritula cautions against making multiple points at once so as to avoid ‘bulk criticism’. But people can write as much as they want in a single idea. For example, you can find several long-form articles in ‘How Does Veritula Work?’. It just depends on how confident people are in their ideas, and how much they have practiced using Veritula.

#2357·Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago·Criticism

I would also consider financially supporting someone who gave me good reason to think they had the vision, the motivation, and the technical skill to create it.

I’m interested. Let’s continue this discussion privately for now. Email me: dh at dennishackethal.com

#2356·Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago

Memes and genes are the same type of knowledge.

That doesn’t sound right to me. Can you elaborate?

#2355·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago·Criticism