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Idea: Links within Veritula could be made bidirectional. While viewing an idea, users could see all the ideas that refer to it. This could be displayed as a list of backlinks at the bottom of the idea’s page.

#2818​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago

What if somebody wanted to post something related that isn’t a comment or criticism? Where/how would they do that?

#2814​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​Criticism Battle-testedArchived

I have largely inexplicit criticisms of the word ‘arena’ in this context, but one that bubbled up to the explicit level is that the word reminds me of Pokemon for some reason 😅

#2810​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

6623c22 implements #2802 and there is no difference in background between footer and page body anymore.

Maybe I’ll figure out the Brave quirk more generally someday, but it’s not noticeably anymore.

#2809​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

If I wanted to keep and share information on Karl Popper, it would be a lot more intuitive to produce an article on him in encyclopedia style—where I can present information in a hierarchy, rather than creating a discussion and then making each detail about him a top-level idea, which is more chaotic.

You already don’t have to do divvy it up like that. Nothing is stopping you from creating a discussion called ‘Karl Popper’ and then posting a single, long-form, top-level idea where you present information in a hierarchy.

#2808​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Forget the term ‘article’ for a second. It sounds like you want the ability to post ideas without having to associate them with a discussion, is that right?

#2807​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​Archived

‘page’ status

What is a page status? How did you determine that an idea’s page status is not the same as a Wikipedia article’s?

#2806​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

As far as search engines are concerned, every idea page is already a standalone page. Not an SEO expert but I cannot imagine search engines penalize URLs containing an ID.

#2805​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Done as of a12ffb3, see eg https://veritula.com/discussions/veritula-meta/activities and the new link to ‘Activity’ at the top of each discussion.

#2804​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Dennis suggested I create this discussion and tag @dirk-meulenbelt and @darren-wiebe.

Logan Chipkin has also suggested I get in contact with @darren-wiebe in regards to putting together a CR encyclopedia or something of the sort.

#2803​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 months ago

I could simply give the footer the same background color as the rest of the page. There’s a discrepancy between light and dark mode anyway. And on horizontal overscroll, the difference in background is painful.

#2802​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 6 months ago​·​Original #2793​·​Archived

Correct, but the gap wouldn’t be noticeable anymore.

#2799​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

That wouldn’t remove the gap.

#2798​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

I could simply give the footer the same background color as the rest of the page.

#2793​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​Archived

Fixed as of 0178828.

#2786​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Done as of 765ba05.

#2785​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

I think it is worth noting that I am much more excited to publish standalone articles than to drop top-level ideas into discussion topics.

I am not marking this as a criticism, as my personal desires in this respect may be irrelevant to the goals of Veritula.

#2782​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Archived

See #2777.

While it is true that discussions don’t restrict people from posting long-form content like what is on the ‘How Does Veritula Work?’ discussion, that is not the intuitive function of a discussion thread. I believe the long-form content in that discussion is much more natural to an article format.

#2779​·​Benjamin Davies revised 6 months ago​·​Original #2778​·​CriticismArchived

If a goal of Veritula is for it to eventually be widely used, it should cater to at least some of what people are used to. The articles and encyclopedia formats are the most standard way for high-level information to be presented in written form, and internet users expect different kinds of content in articles vs discussions.

#2777​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Works well 👍

#2774​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Archived

I used to think that articles would need to be grouped in some way, but I no longer think so. Articles will often compete, even if they aren’t about the same or even similar topic.

E.g. an article ‘Easy-to-Vary Explanations’ would compete with an article ‘The Simulation Hypothesis’

Users would be able to point out and connect conflicting articles, but that wouldn’t cause them to be connected by topic, but rather by conflict.

#2773​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Done as of 4922b8c. The form now sticks to the bottom of the discussion page.

#2772​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Yes, see here: https://veritula.com/discussions/veritula-meta
Give it a shot.

#2771​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​Archived

You may want to hit the bell icon for each discussion and at the top of the page listing all discussions. Then you’ll be notified of every activity on existing discussions, and of new discussions.

#2770​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​Archived

I think so. If Veritula did implement articles, the first thing I’d want is the ability to criticize them; to submit deeply nested counter-criticisms; and to render a label showing how many pending criticisms an article has, calculated based on criticism chains. Which is just what Veritula has already.

#2769​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago​·​Archived