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Ignorance of the law is not generally a legal defense, afaik.

If it were, any criminal could simply claim he didn’t know what he was doing was illegal. Which would be arbitrary.

Which brings us, again, to the purpose of the law: to prevent and address the arbitrary in social life (#1345).

#1399·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Copyright is a well known law in widespread use.

#1398·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized1oustanding criticism

I wasn't aware that I signed such a contract when buying a book. I think for the contract to be valid I have to be aware of the conditions, no?

#1397·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized2oustanding criticisms

Copyright doesn’t prevent people from talking about someone else’s text in their own words, as much as they want.

#1396·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

No. Copyright never prevents consenting parties from sharing text freely as long as everyone agrees that that’s ok (see #1330).

#1395·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Copyright prevents the flow of ideas/information.

#1394·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized2oustanding criticisms

Okay well I have never thought of it in those terms. I definitely think NDAs should be enforceable.

#1393·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago

If someone steals a bike and then gifts it to you that doesn’t mean the owner can’t have it back just because you didn’t steal it. Same for copyright.

#1392·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Not like signing NDA since you are free to talk about the ideas in the book in your own words, but kinda like breach of contract yeah.

#1391·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Superseded by #1389. This comment was generated automatically.

#1390·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·Criticism

Lol no, I'm trying to understand your point. You're saying that buying a book is a bit like signing an NDA, where I can be held liable for breach of contract if I disclose information. Did I get that right?

#1389·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·Revision of #1388·CriticismCriticized1oustanding criticism

Lol no, I'm trying to understand your point.

#1388·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized1oustanding criticism

If you’re looking for someone to assuage your guilt over having pirated copyrighted content in the past, you won’t get that from me.

#1387·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

So it's not me who's pirating the book that is violating her right. It's whoever uploaded it for me to download it, right?

#1386·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized2oustanding criticisms

Ok let’s rewind the clock and say JK Rowling has finished writing Harry Potter but she hasn’t published it yet.

And she says: I’m going to publish and sell this book on condition that anyone who buys it not distribute it further. They can read it but they can’t redistribute it without my permission.

Those are the terms of publication. It’s a contract. And anyone who buys the book is then bound by the contract.

She would not publish the book otherwise.

She created a value and she wants to trade that value for something specific (money in exchange for reading, not redistributing).

Others are free to take her up on the offer or ignore her.

#1385·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Okay so without referring to current legislation. I understand that it is currently illegal, just like tax evasion, but that won't go far in persuading me that it isn't right.

#1384·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized1oustanding criticism

Because she owns the copyright.

#1383·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Why am I violating her rights?

#1382·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized1oustanding criticism

agreed

#1381·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago

Your perspective on whether she loses anything really doesn’t matter. That’s the same even for cold hard property. If I exchange your tic tacs for $1,000,000 without your consent, you only win, you didn’t lose, but it’s still theft.

#1380·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

You’re violating her rights: specifically, her copyright. That’s an aggression.

#1379·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Why? I don't get that. She's not losing anything.

#1378·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized2oustanding criticisms

Yes.

#1377·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Credit is a different matter from copyright. Plagiarism and copyright infringement aren’t the same thing.

#1376·Dennis Hackethal, 6 months ago·Criticism

Am I committing aggression against JK Rowling if I pirate a PDF copy of Harry Potter?

#1375·Amaro Koberle, 6 months ago·CriticismCriticized1oustanding criticism