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#2751·Benjamin Davies, 15 days ago‘Articles’ are functionally no different than top-level ideas in a discussion thread.
Top-level ideas in a discussion thread are not standalone pages.
One thing that Wikipedia does well is having a structured, high level page for each idea/subject. This enables readers to get a good sense of an idea quickly.
Right now, to get a good sense of an idea on Veritula, a user often has to study a branching discussion, which can take a lot of work depending on how the discussion played out. A discussion also emphasises things that were relevant to the disagreements that took place in the discussion, rather than distilling the most important elements of an idea into a hierarchy, regardless of disagreements that took place in getting to it (like an encyclopedia entry does).
#2750·Benjamin Davies, 15 days agoIdea: Veritula Articles
Currently, Veritula is a discussion website. I believe it could one day do what Wikipedia (and Grokipedia) do, but better.
A step towards that would be enabling users to produce ‘articles’ or something similar.
An ‘Articles’ tab would be distinct from the ‘Discussions’ tab, featuring explanatory documents similar to encyclopedia entries, and perhaps also blogpost-like content.
Articles focus on distilling the good ideas created/discovered in the discussions that occur on Veritula.
‘Articles’ are functionally no different than top-level ideas in a discussion thread.
Idea: Veritula Articles
Currently, Veritula is a discussion website. I believe it could one day do what Wikipedia (and Grokipedia) do, but better.
A step towards that would be enabling users to produce ‘articles’ or something similar.
An ‘Articles’ tab would be distinct from the ‘Discussions’ tab, featuring explanatory documents similar to encyclopedia entries, and perhaps also blogpost-like content.
Articles focus on distilling the good ideas created/discovered in the discussions that occur on Veritula.
#453·Dennis HackethalOP revised over 1 year agoThe more ideas there are in a discussion, the further the form for top-level ideas is pushed down. Then people don’t know how to submit a new idea and comment on an existing one instead, even if it’s unrelated, as happened with #448. So I need to make this clearer.
It might make sense to have the new top-level idea form at the top, in the meantime. Compared to the current design, this would invite the creation of more top-level ideas.
#453·Dennis HackethalOP revised over 1 year agoThe more ideas there are in a discussion, the further the form for top-level ideas is pushed down. Then people don’t know how to submit a new idea and comment on an existing one instead, even if it’s unrelated, as happened with #448. So I need to make this clearer.
Any progress on this? Scrolling to the bottom to submit new ideas is annoying.
It would be a waste of time to add features that don’t scale well.
#2744·Benjamin Davies, 15 days agoAs the site grows and there is more activity, there would be too much going on for any user to be interested in all the activity on the site, so it would eventually become irrelevant
The site isn’t at all big enough for this to matter yet.
#2743·Benjamin Davies, 15 days agoIdea: Activity feed should track when you last visited it, take you there when you open it. Currently, someone like me who likes to see everything happening on Veritula needs to go back through pages to find the last thing they saw.
As the site grows and there is more activity, there would be too much going on for any user to be interested in all the activity on the site, so it would eventually become irrelevant
Idea: Activity feed should track when you last visited it, take you there when you open it. Currently, someone like me who likes to see everything happening on Veritula needs to go back through pages to find the last thing they saw.
Would ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up), be pulled out of the archive?
Would ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up) be pulled out of the archive?
#2709·Dennis HackethalOP, 17 days agoCould do it only for ideas with pending criticisms. If they have pending criticisms, how important can they be? This has the added benefit of creating an incentive for proponents of ideas to address criticisms.
Would ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up), be pulled out of the archive?
Idea: Reason Arena
I like something with ‘Arena’ because it would imply action, some ideas winning out over others, and has a Darwinian aspect to it. Our best ideas are the tentative champions in the arena of ideas, waiting for the next challenger.
Idea: ‘Reason Arena’, ‘RA’
I like something with ‘Arena’ because it would imply action, some ideas winning out over others, and has a Darwinian aspect to it. Our best ideas are the tentative champions in the arena of ideas, waiting for the next challenger.
#2666·Dennis HackethalOP revised 19 days ago‘Veritula’ is a difficult name, people don’t know how to spell or pronounce it. They can’t easily remember it.
Idea: Conjecture Arena
#2666·Dennis HackethalOP revised 19 days ago‘Veritula’ is a difficult name, people don’t know how to spell or pronounce it. They can’t easily remember it.
Idea: Reason Arena
I like something with ‘Arena’ because it would imply action, some ideas winning out over others, and has a Darwinian aspect to it. Our best ideas are the tentative champions in the arena of ideas, waiting for the next challenger.
Search page is getting slower the more ideas there are in the db.
#2730·Dennis HackethalOP, 16 days agoAutofocus should put the cursor at the end of an input, not the beginning.
Done for the search input as of 765ba05. It makes sense for that input because the user expects to be able to keep typing after submitting the form. For other inputs, the user will expect whatever default their browser implements.
#2625·Dennis HackethalOP, 22 days agoOn the search page, there should be a button to clear the query input.
Done as of 7a31a68.
Dennis Hackethal updated discussion ‘Does Compulsory Schooling Serve to Liberate Children?’.
The ‘About’ section changed as follows:
Archive of a discussion tree between Dennis Hackethal and Roswitha Kant from the old Veritula website. The creation dates of the ideas were not retained but newly set. The discussion originally took place in German between August and October 2023 and can be viewed in full here.
Reproduction of a discussion tree between Dennis Hackethal and Roswitha Kant from the old Veritula website. The creation dates of the ideas were not retained but newly set. The discussion originally took place in German between August and October 2023 and can be viewed in full here.
Autofocus should put the cursor at the end of an input, not the beginning.
Feature idea: private discussions only the creator and invited people can see.
Feature idea: private discussions only the creator and invited people can see. This could be a paid feature; $2 per discussion, say.
#2312·Benjamin Davies, about 1 month agoMe, too. I think Veritula’s design allows for this pretty naturally since the topic of a discussion can be general enough for various competing ideas to be posted in the discussion.
One thing that Wikipedia articles are very good for is providing well-structured information on a given subject. Discussion threads are not so well structured (the order of information is not based on how high-level or foundational it is, like an encyclopedia entry would be, but rather on the nested chronology of whatever discussion happened to take place.)
Top-level ideas can be structured any way you as author want them to be. (Any idea at any level can, but top-level ideas are presumably where articles could live.) The structure of any particular idea can be different from the structure of the discussion as a whole.