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Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 months ago·#2169
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Veritula should have some way to indicate agreement; some way to indicate that a particular thread of a discussion is resolved, at least for the time being.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago·#2159

How about emoji reactions?

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago·#2160

People could wrongly think they have epistemological relevance. For example, they might adopt an idea that has pending criticism just because it got positive reactions.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago·#2161

Reactions could be limited to the recipient of a comment.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago·#2165

That limits the scope of the problem but doesn’t eliminate it. A single recipient could still react in a distracting way.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2456

There’s value in reacting to top-level ideas, too.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2457

There’s value in others being able to react as well. Maybe an idea affects them in some way or they want to voice support.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2243

There could be an explanation somewhere stating that emoji reactions do not have epistemological relevance.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2244

Hardly anyone reads those, and many of those who do forget.

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The red “Criticized” label is far more prominent than reactions would be.

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In a way, reactions might have epistemological relevance.

If an idea has pending criticisms, it can still have parts worth saving in a revision. Reactions based on paragraphs (#2458) could point out those parts.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago·#2166

Reactions can be ambiguous. It wouldn’t always be clear which part of an idea someone is reacting to.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago·#2167

That only happens if people submit bulk ideas, and people shouldn’t do that anyway.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago·#2168

But not everyone will always use the platform in an ideal way, and I don’t want to make it easier for issues to compound.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2458

I could implement reactions on a per-paragraph basis.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2461

It isn’t clear what would happen during a revision. A paragraph might be changed or deleted. Too complicated.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2462

But presumably, the same is true for reactions to ideas as a whole. Reactions would have to be removed for revisions.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2463

For reactions to paragraphs, at least you could tell if the content someone reacted to has changed, and only then remove the reaction.

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Benjamin Davies, about 1 month ago·#2468

Why should reacts persist through revisions?

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Benjamin Davies, about 1 month ago·#2469

Nevermind, this was addressed by #2462

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2464

Then what does somebody do who wants to react to an idea as a whole? Do they react to the last paragraph?

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2465

The way I picture it, as you hover over different paragraphs, a reaction button appears and moves between paragraphs. So it would always be clear that reactions are on specific paragraphs. The user would pick whatever paragraph they most wish to react to.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2242

Those run the risk of turning Veritula into yet another social network like Reddit or messenger like Telegram.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month ago·#2466

Not if I do reactions on a per-paragraph basis. I think that’s a new feature none of those sites have.

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The purpose of the reaction would be to record a kind of agreement or acknowledgment.
That way, Veritula could show ‘pending’ criticisms to users, say – ‘pending’ in the sense that they haven’t responded to those criticisms. So in addition to revising or counter-criticizing, they get a chance to accept a criticism without it remaining in a ‘pending’ state.

Posting arbitrary emojis doesn’t achieve that purpose.

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Benjamin Davies, 15 days ago·#2894

This is a good idea.

I often receive criticisms that I have no counter-criticisms for, and it would be nice to be able to acknowledge those, both as a way to display gratitude, and as a way to indicate that I think something is tentatively settled.