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Dennis HackethalOP, about 22 hours ago·#3565

The myth Popper criticizes, in one sentence:

A rational and fruitful discussion is impossible unless the participants share a common framework of basic assumptions or, at least, unless they have agreed on such a framework for the purpose of the discussion.

pp. 34-35

By ‘framework’, Popper means an intellectual framework (as opposed to, say, certain attitudes like a desire to find truth).

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Dennis HackethalOP revised about 17 hours ago·#3591
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Fallibilism refutes the relativism on which the myth rests because fallibilism provides an absolute standard:

[T]here exists a very different attitude towards absolute truth, in fact a fallibilist attitude. It stresses the fact that the mistakes we make can be absolute mistakes, in the sense that our theories can be absolutely false – that they can fall short of the truth. Thus to the fallibilist the notion of truth, and that of falling short of the truth, may represent absolute standards – even though we can never be certain that we are living up to them. But since they may serve as a kind of steering compass, they may be of decisive help in critical discussions.

P. 48

Popper then says that Alfred Tarsky revived this notion of absolute truth.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 17 hours ago·#3593

But is not Tarski's notion of truth a relative notion? Is it not relative to the language to which the statement whose truth is being discussed belongs?

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 17 hours ago·#3594

The answer to this question is 'no'. Tarski's theory says that a statement in some language, say English, is true if and only if it corresponds to the facts. And Tarski's theory implies that whenever there is another language, say French, in which we can describe the same fact, then the French statement which describes this fact will be true if and only if the corresponding English statement is true. Thus it is impossible, according to Tarski's theory, that of two statements that are translations of each other, one can be true and the other false. Truth, according to Tarski's theory, is therefore not dependent on language, or relative to language.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 17 hours ago·#3595

Accurate translation can be very difficult though.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 17 hours ago·#3596

They can, but the myth says such translations are impossible.

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