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With an account, you can revise, criticize, and comment on ideas.The article says:
[Justificationism] is the idea that beliefs can be fully justified, proven true by some final authority beyond question.
This definition breaks with BoI. The glossary from ch. 1 says:
[Justificationism is t]he misconception that knowledge can be genuine or reliable only if it is justified by some source or criterion.
Note that this second quote says nothing about finality “beyond question”.
Just because Dirk’s notion of justificationism breaks with BoI’s doesn’t mean Dirk is wrong. BoI could be wrong.
Indeed. Justification without finality is fake.
"X is true because of Y, but we can discuss Y"
Is functionally the same as
"X is true and we can discuss why"
But this sounds like you’re saying justificationism is necessarily the same as foundationalism. Whereas in #4392 you agreed it’s only a kind of justifiationism.
“Justification without finality is fake.” (#4391) In other words, if it doesn’t claim to be final, it’s not justification.