Why Is There Something Rather Than Nothing?

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If non-existence is to mean anything at all, I think that’s it, yes.

#532 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · context · Criticism Battle tested

I would be amazed if that is why there is something rather than nothing.

(Logan Chipkin)

#533 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #532Criticized1 criticim(s)

That’s not a counterargument - so maybe that’s it, after all.

(Logan Chipkin)

#534 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #533
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I would think that the solution comes either from physics or from philosophy that comes out of some physical theory.

(Logan Chipkin)

#535 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #532Criticized1 criticim(s)

Doesn’t physics presume the existence of physical objects and laws? Ie it presumes the existence of something physical. So it presumes existence itself. In which case physics can’t be the arbiter here.

#536 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #535

Good point - philosophy, then.

(Logan Chipkin)

#537 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #536Criticized1 criticim(s)

Is logic part of philosophy?

#538 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago

Yes (Logan Chipkin)

#539 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago
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Since you agree (#539) that logic is part of philosophy, the law of the excluded middle should satisfy you as a philosophical answer, no?

#540 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #537

You mean to the question of existence, or in general? Cuz in general I’d think of it as a criticism.

(Logan Chipkin)

#541 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #540Criticized1 criticim(s)

To the question of existence.

#542 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #541

Yes, it should. I am left with no counterargument but a mild sense of dissatisfaction.

(Logan Chipkin)

#543 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago

Inexplicit criticism is good, maybe you can make it explicit someday and we can continue.

#544 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago

I’d like that.

And yes inexplicit criticism is good! And not taking infinite criticism is bad. Someone should make a list of understandable pitfalls one ought to avoid when trying to apply critical rationalism.

(Logan Chipkin)

#545 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago
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People use the same argument to "prove" the existence of God. The existence of anything can then be proved simply by including in the definition that it must exist. Example: Dragons must exist because I can define "dragon" as what is traditionally thought of a dragon, plus the claim that it exists.
Also you can't at the same time say that non-existence is ruled out on logical grounds, and then define it as something that's clearly possible, namely the absence of the universe. It's conflating an abstract concept for a physical one.

#570 · · Ante Škugor, 9 months ago · Criticism of #532Criticized1 criticim(s)

Please don’t submit multiple criticisms in the same post. Submit one criticism per post only. Familiarize yourself with how Veritula works (#465) before you continue.

#571 · · Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago · Criticism of #570
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