How Does Veritula Work?

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#5748·​
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Rational Decision-Making

It’s rational to adopt only those ideas which, as written, don’t have pending criticisms, and to reject ideas that do.

If an idea, as written, has no pending criticisms, it’s rational to adopt it and irrational to reject it. What reason could you have to reject it? If it has no pending criticisms, then either no reasons to reject it (ie, criticisms) have been suggested or all suggested reasons have been addressed already.

If an idea, as written, does have pending criticisms, it’s irrational to adopt it and rational to reject it – by reference to those criticisms. What reason could you have to ignore the pending criticisms and adopt it anyway? After all, the previous paragraph applies to pending criticisms, too.

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#5332·​·​Criticism

Brett says this can’t be a fully specified criterion of rationality because it’s not an AGI.

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#5333·​·​Criticism

As I wrote to him in response, rationality and creativity are different things. They’re related, and there’s overlap, but you don’t need to code creativity to code rational preference formation. You can outsource creative input to the user, as programs usually do.

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#5340·​·​Criticism

Brett claims in response “the whole Popperian view is that rationality *is* creativity: the *creation* of corrections to errors once identified, etc.” He’s concerned that Veritula “seems to suggest ‘rationality’ is identical to something like ‘logic’ or a purely deductive process.”

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#5368·​·​Criticism

I reply:

Sometimes it’s *hard* to come up with new options. Like in the conflict between QM and GR. So then we have to choose from existing options because we can’t trivially just ‘be creative’ to make a new one

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#5369·​·​Criticism

But #5331 relies on our ability to come up with new options to remain rational in the face of mutually exclusive options.

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Dennis HackethalOP·​#5370·​·​Criticism

In #5368, I mean fully new options. Like a new theory in addition to QM and GR. Such a theory is extremely hard to come by.

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