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Building on #123, cutting the umbilical does not make the baby an “independent person”. The baby still depends on the parents physically, financially, emotionally, etc.

#124​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

There’s ‘evictionism’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evictionism

I like this view because it sidesteps the issue of personhood and at what point it arises. It says you’re free to evict anything, person or not. We don’t how creativity (ie the universal-explainer software mentioned in #119) works so this is handy.

(Amaro)

#120​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized3

Why would a fetus without a nervous system not be a person?

#118​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

While the fetus is attached to the mother, it’s her property and she is free to do what she wants with it. Therefore, she can abort the baby at any time prior to being born and the umbilical being but, at which point the baby is an independent person.

(John)

#116​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized4

It’s arguably a sexually active woman’s responsibility to monitor whether she’s pregnant.

If it weren’t her responsibility, then a burden would fall on the baby, which can’t be right because the baby only exists because of the mother’s choices.

#112​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 years ago​·​Original #109​·​CriticismCriticized1

There are some practical considerations, too.

There’s no point allowing abortion only in the first six weeks because many women don’t realize they’re pregnant until later.

(Danny)

#110​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 years ago​·​Original #108​·​CriticismCriticized1

It’s arguably a sexually active woman’s responsibility to monitor whether she’s pregnant.

If it’s not her responsibility, then a burden falls on the baby, which can’t be right because the baby only exists because of the mother’s choices.

#109​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

There are some practical considerations, too.

There’s no point allowing abortion only in the first six weeks because many women don’t realize they’re pregnant until later.

#108​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized2

I’m pro abortion but I have some pro life in me.

Banning the abortion of a zygote seems ridiculous. So does aborting a seven-month-old fetus.

Why not go with: you can abort until the nervous system develops.

Clearly, a fetus without a nervous system can’t be sentient and thus can’t be a person, right? And as long as it’s not a person, it doesn’t have any rights.

#105​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 years ago​·​Original #104​·​Criticized1

One difference between having multiple objectivist countries and having private arbitration services is that the latter can operate in the same territory whereas the former have distinct territories. So this may not be a stolen concept after all.

#75​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

This is an example of version control for ideas. As I revise this idea, new versions are created and automatically diffed. Click the arrows below to cycle through the version history.

Say you make a tpyo. Then you can fix it.

#69​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 years ago​·​Original #64​·​Criticized1

That is not what freedom means.

Freedom does not consist in the guarantee of certain thoughts or scope for action.

Roughly speaking, freedom is when you are left alone by others when you want to be left alone.

If you are sent to school against your will, you are not free. School is forced.

Forcing children to be free is a contradiction in terms.

#62​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 years ago​·​Original #35​·​CriticismCriticized1

The freedom of one person, including a child's, ends where the freedom of another begins.

(Kant)

#59​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

A multidisciplinary project involving programming, mathematics, philosophy and biology should be made possible for all young people - shouldn't it? - and would promote future skills for the digital age: expertise, critically constructive and independent thinking, skills to act and judge, epistemology, ethics and anthropology, and ecology. That would emancipate children in the enlightenment sense.

(Kant)

#56​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 years ago​·​Original #55​·​CriticismCriticized1

A multidisciplinary project involving programming, mathematics, philosophy and biology should be made possible for all young people - shouldn't it? - and would promote future skills for the digital age: expertise, critically constructive and independent thinking, skills to act and judge, epistemology, ethics and anthropology, and ecology. That would emancipate children in the sense of the enlightenment.

(Kant)

#55​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

It doesn't matter that he is a physicist, because his thoughts on the subject are of a philosophical/ epistemological nature.

#52​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

You are referring to ideas by David Deutsch. He is a physicist; he deals with inorganic matter. His ideas on educating children are therefore irrelevant.

(Kant)

#51​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized3

It was only in the 2000s that school became a compulsory program, as the teaching of skills was geared to the needs of the market rather than to enlightenment values and independent thinking.

(Kant)

#47​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized3

Freedom of choice is not restricted at school. For example, students can choose between different languages. They can choose their exams and what to read, etc.

(Kant)

#44​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized2

So children already have freedom of thought? You originally said that children only have freedom of thought when their minds have reached a certain level of maturity; that this was the purpose of school in the first place. That doesn't fit together.

#39​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Forcing someone to think is impossible. The student remains free in his thoughts.

(Kant)

#38​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized3

We need to distinguish between freedom of choice and freedom of thought.

School serves to educate students to have freedom of thought. This is achieved by restricting freedom of choice.

(Kant)

#36​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

That is not what freedom means.

Freedom does not consist in the guarantee of certain thoughts or scope for action.

Roughly speaking, freedom is when you are left alone by others when you want to be left alone.

If you are sent to school against your will, you are not free. School is a forced program.

Forcing children to be free is a contradiction in terms.

#35​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Freedom is achieved when the mind reaches a certain level of intellectual maturity: when it thinks for itself.

This is the purpose of compulsory education: to liberate children.

(Kant)

#34​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​Criticized2

Dispute resolution, lawmaking, and personal defense are only proper in the hands of government.

#25​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 years ago​·​CriticismCriticized1