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But you’re not at war all the time.

It depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains are real and the space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But constrains is still here locally (e.g. limited time and cognitive/computational complexity/energy). And, each consensus have a price to be established, and an infrastructural tax to work.

#4605​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 1 day ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But constrains is still here locally (e.g. limited time and cognitive/computational complexity/energy). And, each consensus have a price to be established, and an infrastructural tax to work.

#4603​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 1 day ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But constrains is still here locally (e.g. limited time and cognitive/computational complexity/energy). And, each consensus have a price.

#4601​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 1 day ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But anyway, each consensus have cost.

#4599​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 1 day ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But anyway, each consensus have cost.

#4597​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 1 day ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory.

#4595​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 1 day ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely of available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory.

#4594​·​Yurii Pytomets, 1 day ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Enjoy your crystal clearness. Feel free to remove my account, please, since I see no such option. I see no perspective in communication with ones who found it discomfortable to retrospect frames of own perspective.

#4592​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 1 day ago​·​Original #4591​·​CriticismCriticized1

Enjoy your crystal clearness.

#4591​·​Yurii Pytomets, 1 day ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

There's a lot of meanings for this word: mathematical (structural), logical induction, epistemological one (anti-unification aka generalization, abduction). BTW it's interesting: how do you see the abduction: do you have a precise definition in mind?

Could you refer something specific for a brief introduction to the Popper's conclusions, which ones most interesting and important from your perspective?

#4590​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 1 day ago​·​Original #4589

There's a lot of meaning for this word: mathematical (structural), logical induction, epistemological one (anti-unification aka generalization, abduction). BTW it's interesting: how do you see the abduction: do you have a precise definition in mind?

Could you refer something specific for a brief introduction to the Popper's conclusions, which ones most interesting and important from your perspective?

#4589​·​Yurii Pytomets, 1 day ago

If rationality and peace required unlimited resources and time, you’d be at war all the time, because resources and time are always limited. But you’re not at war all the time. So rationality and peace can’t require unlimited resources and time.

They require things like openness to debate, creativity, freedom of association, etc.

#4588​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 1 day ago​·​Criticism Battle tested

I haven't advocating the consistency. But could you be more specific, which one?

#4587​·​Yurii Pytomets, 1 day ago

No. You’re polluting Veritula with incoherent ramblings. Veritula is meant for serious philosophical work, not navel-gazing.

We have a rule (#4460) against behavior that sabotages debate and progress. Your ramblings are derailing debate. The amount of posts in such a short amount of time is also borderline spammy.

Take a break for a day or two. Be selective about what you respond to. Keep your posts short. And stop rambling.

#4586​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 1 day ago

There's nothing bad in death. But that's an existential disaster -- to not live.

Do you not see the blatant contradictions in your own writing?

#4585​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 1 day ago​·​Criticism

[T]here's 4B years of pretty reliable statistics.

This is induction, see Popper.

#4584​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 1 day ago​·​Criticism

And so for real-world rational subject there inevitable appears necessity of competition, ability to lie, on addition to the cooperation.

#4583​·​Yurii Pytomets, 1 day ago

What do you think about such acts as an example of manifestation of the intelligence, abilities to:
- Perceive
- Ask
- Lie
- Joke
- Change

#4582​·​Yurii Pytomets, 1 day ago

In an "ideal" world with unlimited sources and time.
Real-world cognition model must handle resource (time, computation, available energy, logistic, complexity, influence) bounds as an explicit manageable constraints, presented for the conscious.

#4581​·​Yurii Pytomets, 1 day ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Okay, it looks like, counter-argumenting isn't enough to make a more interesting model by eliminating contradictions, let's try to find a common ground constructively, and use them as a fruitful source of improvement possibilities, I hope you do not perceive my, a bit informal way of express counter-arguments, personally, but as a valuable opportunity to test and improve worldview, as so do I, or just because of curiosity, anyway there's no reason to protect any fragile theory, except for a practice and for a cognitive workout purpose. So, back to the point: how your worldview model deals with Kuhn's stance of epistemic's non-monotonic nature? Do you have some formal semantic/logic in mind? Intuitionistic/nonmonotonic/relevance/modal, in particular epistemic/doxastic/temporal logics? There's pretty interesting matching and reachability logics: http://www.matching-logic.org . The https://cis.temple.edu/~pwang/NARS-Intro.html model looks promising. But there's a lot of opportunities to improve/overcome computation complexity issues (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_explosion), and probably re-imagining, what computers are -- could be the key (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer). I agree with the take that only proofs counts which possible to run on the computer. But at the end, any computer or any person -- are just phenomenons at reality, not available for the direct observation and verification, so, after all, at the end -- it's all just vibes around the silent essence.

#4580​·​Yurii Pytomets, 1 day ago

The certainty that one able to know something in advance.
The root of all kind of discriminations and profanity, for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice

#4579​·​Yurii Pytomets, 2 days ago

Agree, you right, accepting the mistake.
Would you like to tell more what you found important from the Popper's work?

#4578​·​Yurii Pytomets, 2 days ago
#4577​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 2 days ago​·​Original #4576

As you wish.

#4576​·​Yurii Pytomets, 2 days ago

Pretty confident takes as for a person who isn't going to sell you something useless :)
I would prefer to doubt a possibility to avoid death, there's 4B years of pretty reliable statistics. But I believe you.

On other hand, it's way more refreshing to accept a few years of existence as an unique gift and value the possibility to enjoy it.

#4574​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 2 days ago​·​Original #4573​·​CriticismCriticized1