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If others can still participate during that time, it’s not really a grace period.

#3463​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3462​·​CriticismArchived

and others

If others can still participate, it’s not really a grace period.

#3462​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Then all pending criticisms automatically receive equal payouts.

#3461​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

What happens if they neglect to review pending criticisms?

#3460​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

There could be a grace period. For example, 24 hours after the bounty ends, no new criticisms can be posted on the bountied idea. That way, the bounty initiator and others have time to review pending criticisms.

#3459​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

This idea introduces additional complexity and edge cases. For example, what happens if authorization fails? Need something simpler for an MVP version of this feature.

#3458​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

While this idea sounded promising at first, I now realize it just moves the deadline problem one level underneath the bountied idea.

#3457​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

What if every criticism on the bountied idea creates a separate authorization? The bounty initiator would add their card on file and then every time someone submits a criticism, the card is authorized for the per-criticism amount.

#3456​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

Would still be a hassle for users to track refunds.

#3454​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3453​·​CriticismArchived

Who wants that hassle?

#3453​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

There could still be a button to report abuse. People found to abuse deadlines could become ineligible for payouts and excluded from participating in future bounties.

#3452​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Although there’s a risk for abuse, that’s a feature: it will lead to lively discussions among critics.

#3451​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

People who have submitted criticisms hope to get paid. They have an incentive to submit arbitrary counter-criticisms to others’ criticisms to increase their own share of the pie.

#3449​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3448​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

If they have submitted criticisms, they may get paid. So they have an incentive to submit arbitrary counter-criticisms to others’ criticisms.

#3448​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

What incentive would others have to submit arbitrary criticisms? They’re not the ones paying.

#3447​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Card authorizations will necessarily have a deadline.

#3446​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You submit an idea with a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks per criticism received, say.

The amount should be arbitrarily customizable.

There could then be a page for bounties at /bounties. And a page listing a user’s bounties at /:username/bounties.

When starting a bounty, the user indicates terms such as what kinds of criticism they want. This way, they avoid having to pay people pointing out typos, say.

#3444​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #2442​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Rather than set a fixed amount for each unproblematic criticism (#3421), the ceiling could be divided among all unproblematic criticisms equally.

#3442​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3424​·​Criticized1Archived

There is a counter-incentive to be the first to submit a criticism since subsequent criticisms run the risk of being duplicates, and being criticized as such.

#3441​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

That doesn’t address the possibility of others submitting arbitrary criticisms just before the deadline.

#3440​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

I believe Veritula would lose money on refunds.

#3439​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Could offer refunds.

#3438​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

That seems like a tough sell. Users might not be willing to spend money without knowing whether anyone will submit any criticisms.

#3437​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

What if Veritula charges the card immediately and holds the funds?

#3436​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Maybe, but what if re-authorization fails? Then nobody gets paid.

#3435​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismArchived