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But we don’t don't know if consciousness can emerge as a byproduct of computation […]

We do know that. From the laws of physics. From BoI ch. 6:

[E]xpecting a computer to be able to do whatever neurons can is not a metaphor: it is a known and proven property of the laws of physics as best we know them.

#1223​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

@knut-sondre-saebo, you write in the explanation for this revision:

I think the the law of excluded middle is more a property or constraint of existence, rather than a cause. Since we can treat universe as being something as a given, the reason it can't be something else is because the law of excluded middle constrains it to be what it is.

Revision explanations are meant to be short, eg ‘Fixed typo’ or ‘Clarified x’. Since the quote above contradicts #521, it might be worth submitting it as a criticism of #521, or as a separate idea. It doesn’t really work as a revision because revisions are for incremental changes, not for introducing contradictions.

#1211​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

There is a similar (identical?) theory put forward by Marc Lewis in The Biology of Desire. He explains addiction as the process of "reciprocal narrowing". The process of reciprocal narrowing does not remove conflicting desires, but instead reinforces a pattern of dealing with conflict through a progressively narrower, habitual response (substance, action, mental dissociation). Addiction, therefore, as you suggested, is a process of managing the "conflict between two or more preferences within the mind."

#1210​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #1197

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#1209​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

I do think the whole mind is a program (or programs).

#1208​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

When you make a revision to address a criticism, be sure to uncheck the corresponding criticism in the revision form, section “Do the comments still apply?”. That way, #1134 won’t show up anymore.

#1207​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

In #1189, yes, but then you reverted it in #1192.

#1206​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

I agree that nothingness as an object makes no sense.

Regarding nothingness as a quantifier: if you removed all objects except for the universe itself, then the universe remains as an object. So then the set of all objects wouldn’t be empty. So even as a quantifier, nothingness doesn’t seem to work. At least when it refers to all of existence.

Or am I missing something?

#1204​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #1203​·​CriticismCriticized1

I agree that nothingness as an object makes no sense.

Regarding nothingness as a quantifier: if you removed all objects except for the universe itself, then the universe remains as an object. So then the set of all objects wouldn’t be empty. So even as a quantifier, nothingness doesn’t seem to work.

Or am I missing something?

#1203​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

[…] it’s the fact that the law of the excluded middle that constrains the universe to exist.

That isn’t a sentence.

#1202​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Knut has fixed the typo. @knut-sondre-saebo, be sure to check off addressed criticisms when you revise an idea. Underneath the revision form, there’s a list of criticisms that you can check and uncheck.

#1201​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Nothingness as a quantifier, is the concept of a universe with no objects. This doesn't have any inherent contradictions in classical logic. It would simply be a world where all objects are subtracted, as in an empty set.

Wouldn’t the universe itself be an object, as would the set itself, so you’d never have an empty set anyway?

#1199​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #1131​·​CriticismCriticized1

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#1198​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Workaround: have users email me for password reset for now. Re-evaluate when I have enough users to merit additional infrastructure for sending emails.

#1136​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​CriticismArchived

on the other

This part should be preceded by ‘on the one hand’. As in: ‘In other words, the mind has a dual process of explicit thoughts and conscious reflection on the one hand, and ingrained habits or "mental programs" on the other.’

#1134​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

You marked your idea as a criticism but I don’t see where it conflicts with its parent. Explain?

#1133​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Nothingness as a qunatifier

Typo. Consider revising your idea to resolve this criticism.

#1132​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Nothingness as a qunatifier [sic], is the concept of a universe with no objects. This doesn't have any inherent contradictions in classical logic. It would simply be a world where all objects are subtracted, as in an empty set.

Wouldn’t the universe itself be an object, as would the set itself, so you’d never have an empty set anyway?

#1131​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​CriticismCriticized3

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#1125​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Sounds like she treats existence or nature or the law of identity as an ultimate bedrock. Foundationalism.

#1123​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #518​·​Criticism

Sounds like she treats existence or nature as an ultimate bedrock. Foundationalism.

#1090​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #518​·​CriticismCriticized1

Not existence but maybe the law of identity.

#1060​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

She only says that the law of identify rules nature, not that it explains nature’s existence.

#1059​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

She does explain it by referring to the law of identity.

#1058​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Since the law of the excluded middle is a corollary of the law of identity, Rand kind of implies this idea when she says that nature “is not ruled by a consciousness or by will or by chance, but by the Law of Identity.”

#1057​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago