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Alan Forrester1 says ‘no’:

Quantum mechanics has almost no bearing on the operation of the brain, except insofar as it explains the existence of matter. You say that signals are carried by electrons, but this is very imprecise. Rather, they are carried by various kinds of chemical signals, including ions. Those signals are released into a warm environment that they interact with over a very short timescale.

Quantum mechanical processes like interference and entanglement only continue to show effects that differ from classical physics when the relevant information does not leak into the environment. This issue has been explained [in] the context of the brain by Max Tegmark in The importance of quantum decoherence in brain processes. In the brain, the leaking of information should take place over a time of the order 10−13 − 10−20 s. The timescale over which neurons fire etc. is 0.001 − 0.1s. So your thoughts are not quantum computations or anything like that. The brain is a classical computer.


  1. Forrester is a former henchman of the very toxic Elliot Temple. Approach with extreme caution.

#1489​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #1488​·​Criticized1

Alan Forrester1 says ‘no’:

Quantum mechanics has almost no bearing on the operation of the brain, except insofar as it explains the existence of matter. You say that signals are carried by electrons, but this is very imprecise. Rather, they are carried by various kinds of chemical signals, including ions. Those signals are released into a warm environment that they interact with over a very short timescale.

Quantum mechanical processes like interference and entanglement only continue to show effects that differ from classical physics when the relevant information does not leak into the environment. This issue has been explained [in] the context of the brain by Max Tegmark in The importance of quantum decoherence in brain processes. In the brain, the leaking of information should take place over a time of the order 10−13 − 10−20 s. The timescale over which neurons fire etc. is 0.001−0.1s. So your thoughts are not quantum computations or anything like that. The brain is a classical computer.


  1. Forrester is a former henchman of the very toxic Elliot Temple. Approach with extreme caution.

#1488​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago​·​Criticized1

Related question: is the brain a quantum computer?

#1487​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

‘When I distribute other people’s bicycles for free, I am simply offering better terms for access to bicycles than the stores that sell them, so in a free market I should be the one that ends up distributing because I solve the same problem at a lower price.’ 🤡

#1456​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Copyright infringement usually isn’t a crime.

#1453​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

No I disagree, for all the reasons I already gave in response to #1346.

#1452​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

This duplicate is symptomatic of a larger and common issue of just reverting back to one’s previous arguments when one hasn’t fully processed the counterarguments. Veritula helps you avoid doing that because you can just look up each idea’s ‘truth status’. If it has outstanding criticisms, you don’t invoke it again. You either save it first or work on something else.

#1450​·​Dennis Hackethal revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #1449

This duplicate is symptomatic of a larger and common issue of just reverting back to one’s previous arguments when one hasn’t fully addressed the counterarguments. Veritula helps you avoid doing that because you can just look up each idea’s ‘truth status’. If it has outstanding criticisms, you don’t invoke it again. You either save it first or work on something else.

#1449​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago

Duplicate of #1346.

#1448​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Duplicate of #1346.

#1445​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Not circular since #1346 is not a parent of this idea.

#1444​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

You didn’t trade value for value. You traded nothing at all and only received. A free market and justice depend on people interacting as traders, not as leeches (objectivism).

#1441​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

You never agreed to buy the bike either, that’s the point.

#1440​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Just returning the bike doesn’t necessarily make him whole. Maybe he lost revenues during the time he couldn’t use his bike.

#1438​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Maybe you could simply pay her the price of the book plus interest plus a fee for the inconvenience. Plus some ‘deterrence fee’ so that most people don’t even think of doing it to begin with.

#1437​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Circular due to #1386.

#1434​·​Dennis Hackethal revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #1431​·​Criticism

Duplicate of #1386. Repeating an argument that has outstanding criticisms doesn’t address the criticisms. You can address the criticisms or revise the argument or abandon the argument.

#1432​·​Dennis Hackethal revised about 1 year ago​·​Original #1430​·​Criticism

Circular due to #1392.

#1431​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Duplicate of #1392. Repeating an argument that has outstanding criticisms doesn’t address the criticisms. You can address the criticisms or revise the argument or abandon the argument.

#1430​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Not sure that’s extortion but yes, generally speaking, people have the right to use force to prevent and address the arbitrary in social life (#1345).

#1428​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Yeah. And if he takes it against your will and replaces it with a brand new bike it’s still theft.

#1426​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago

It’s about value not physical scarcity. If you only steal it while I’m asleep and return it before I wake up and want to use it it’s still theft.

#1424​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

Duplicate of #1346.

#1423​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism

‘Couriers who jump start their careers by stealing bicycles wouldn’t exist.’

#1419​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism
#1418​·​Dennis Hackethal, about 1 year ago​·​Criticism