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  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #2467.

How do you ensure the criticism is worthy of the bounty?

#2467·Benjamin Davies, about 2 months ago

There could be a grace period. For example, 24 hours after the bounty ends, no new criticisms can be posted on the bountied idea. That way, the bounty initiator and others have time to review pending criticisms.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3456.

What if every criticism on the bountied idea creates a separate authorization? The bounty initiator would add their card on file and then every time someone submits a criticism, the card is authorized for the per-criticism amount.

#3456·Dennis HackethalOP, about 21 hours ago

This idea introduces additional complexity and edge cases. For example, what happens if authorization fails? Need something simpler for an MVP version of this feature.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3456.

What if every criticism on the bountied idea creates a separate authorization? The bounty initiator would add their card on file and then every time someone submits a criticism, the card is authorized for the per-criticism amount.

#3456·Dennis HackethalOP, about 21 hours ago

While this idea sounded promising at first, I now realize it just moves the deadline problem one level underneath the bountied idea.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3431.

The bounty initiator’s card will have to be authorized when starting the bounty. Card authorizations presumably have a deadline, so resetting the deadline won’t be an option.

#3431·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

What if every criticism on the bountied idea creates a separate authorization? The bounty initiator would add their card on file and then every time someone submits a criticism, the card is authorized for the per-criticism amount.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #3453.

Who wants that hassle?

Would still be a hassle for users to track refunds.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3438.

Could offer refunds.

#3438·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

Who wants that hassle?

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3440.

That doesn’t address the possibility of others submitting arbitrary criticisms just before the deadline.

#3440·Dennis HackethalOP, about 22 hours ago

There could still be a button to report abuse. People found to abuse deadlines could become ineligible for payouts and excluded from participating in future bounties.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3449.

People who have submitted criticisms hope to get paid. They have an incentive to submit arbitrary counter-criticisms to others’ criticisms to increase their own share of the pie.

#3449·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 22 hours ago

Although there’s a risk for abuse, that’s a feature: it will lead to lively discussions among critics.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #3448.

If they have submitted criticisms, they may get paid. So they have an incentive to submit arbitrary counter-criticisms to others’ criticisms.

People who have submitted criticisms hope to get paid. They have an incentive to submit arbitrary counter-criticisms to others’ criticisms to increase their own share of the pie.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3447.

What incentive would others have to submit arbitrary criticisms? They’re not the ones paying.

#3447·Dennis HackethalOP, about 22 hours ago

If they have submitted criticisms, they may get paid. So they have an incentive to submit arbitrary counter-criticisms to others’ criticisms.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3440.

That doesn’t address the possibility of others submitting arbitrary criticisms just before the deadline.

#3440·Dennis HackethalOP, about 22 hours ago

What incentive would others have to submit arbitrary criticisms? They’re not the ones paying.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #2504.

I would have it that each criticism and counter-criticism resets the countdown on the bounty deadline. This means everyone involved is given fair time to respond at each turn.

#2504·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 months ago

Card authorizations will necessarily have a deadline.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #2811.

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You submit an idea with a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks per criticism received, say.

The amount should be arbitrarily customizable.

There could then be a page for bounties at /bounties. And a page listing a user’s bounties at /:username/bounties.

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You submit an idea with a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks per criticism received, say.

The amount should be arbitrarily customizable.

There could then be a page for bounties at /bounties. And a page listing a user’s bounties at /:username/bounties.

When starting a bounty, the user indicates terms such as what kinds of criticism they want. This way, they avoid having to pay people pointing out typos, say.

  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #3424.

Rather than set a fixed amount for each unproblematic criticism (#3421), the ceiling could be divided among all criticisms equally.

Rather than set a fixed amount for each unproblematic criticism (#3421), the ceiling could be divided among all unproblematic criticisms equally.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3430.

But that would mean that the first criticism receives a payout at the same time the last criticism receives a payout. That creates an incentive to ignore new bounties in favor of older ones.

#3430·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

There is a counter-incentive to be the first to submit a criticism since subsequent criticisms run the risk of being duplicates, and being criticized as such.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #2513.

Idea: when you create a bounty, you set the amount you’re willing to pay per criticism and a ceiling for the total you’re willing to spend (no. of crits * amount per crit).

Your card is authorized for twice the ceiling. In addition, there’s a button to report abuse. If you’re a good citizen, you’ll be charged the ceiling, at most. But if you’re found to submit arbitrary criticisms to avoid paying, the bounty stops early and your card is charged the full authorization.

#2513·Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

That doesn’t address the possibility of others submitting arbitrary criticisms just before the deadline.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3438.

Could offer refunds.

#3438·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

I believe Veritula would lose money on refunds.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3437.

That seems like a tough sell. Users might not be willing to spend money without knowing whether anyone will submit any criticisms.

#3437·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

Could offer refunds.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3436.

What if Veritula charges the card immediately and holds the funds?

#3436·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

That seems like a tough sell. Users might not be willing to spend money without knowing whether anyone will submit any criticisms.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3431.

The bounty initiator’s card will have to be authorized when starting the bounty. Card authorizations presumably have a deadline, so resetting the deadline won’t be an option.

#3431·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

What if Veritula charges the card immediately and holds the funds?

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3433.

Couldn’t I let the initial authorization expire and then re-authorize the card?

#3433·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 23 hours ago

Maybe, but what if re-authorization fails? Then nobody gets paid.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #3432.

Couldn’t I re-authorize the card?

Couldn’t I let the initial authorization expire and then re-authorize the card?

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #3431.

The bounty initiator’s card will have to be authorized when starting the bounty. Card authorizations presumably have a deadline, so resetting the deadline won’t be an option.

#3431·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

Couldn’t I re-authorize the card?

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #2524.

I’m not sure yet, but I’m playing with the idea that the criticism can’t have any pending counter-criticisms by some deadline. Each counter-criticism could reset the deadline to give everyone ample time to respond.

#2524·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 2 months ago

The bounty initiator’s card will have to be authorized when starting the bounty. Card authorizations presumably have a deadline, so resetting the deadline won’t be an option.

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #3424.

Rather than set a fixed amount for each unproblematic criticism (#3421), the ceiling could be divided among all criticisms equally.

#3424·Dennis HackethalOP, about 23 hours ago

But that would mean that the first criticism receives a payout at the same time the last criticism receives a payout. That creates an incentive to ignore new bounties in favor of older ones.