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  Tyler Mills revised idea #5225 and marked it as a criticism.

Interesting. But I would guess it only works well for constant sounds. The sensor has to read the waveform to create one that cancels it. Will not do much for short impulses of sound, which are the main offender (my current neighbors are okay, for the record).

Interesting. But I would guess it only works well for constant sounds. The sensor has to read the waveform to create one that cancels it. Will not do much for short impulses of sound, which are the main offender (my current neighbors are okay, for the record).

  Tyler Mills addressed criticism #5234.

Isn’t this a criticism?

#5234​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

Well the device may deal with some noisy neighbors, but sure, a criticism overall. Edited.

  Tyler Mills commented on idea #5205.

Time-release melatonin also does not noticeably affect the larger issue for me of falling asleep.

#5205​·​Tyler MillsOP, 9 days ago

I've wondered about taking some regular to fall asleep, and the time-released to stay asleep. But in any case testing so far has shown melatonin (of either kind) on its own does not significantly help the falling asleep issue (the greater of the two, falling asleep and staying).

  Tyler Mills commented on criticism #5233.

What’s wrong with using melatonin indefinitely?

AFAIK it creates no physical dependence, you don’t build a tolerance, and it’s cheap. What’s not to love?

#5233​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

A cursory search suggests I was mistaken. It may be "mentally" habit forming (one becomes anxious if it's unavailable). But that's no big deal. So it could be a fine long-term solution to the staying asleep problem. What's not to love: #5205.

  Tyler Mills commented on criticism #5232.

Shouldn’t this be a criticism?

#5232​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

Indeed; the criticism included with it (that I don't want to be dependent) applies to regular melatonin as well.

  Tyler Mills commented on idea #5229.

The cause of procrastination is a conflict between preferences. Part of you wants to take out the trash, another doesn’t. The solution is a common preference: a new option both parts of you prefer to their respective initial position.

Can you identify those parts within you?
Try brainstorming many new options on V. With any luck, you’ll find a new option both parts of you want without delay.

#5229​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

It strikes me that I may have some confusion around compromise. There's an idea (from who/where? Gemini says Brett Hall...) that a compromise can actually be bad, because it is a new theory that no one was advocating for. So if it fails, it's harder to learn from and hold anyone accountable for. Yet, to resolve our procrastination and other hangups (and many problems in life), it seems like finding a common preference is the thing to do (and it seems like it works). But isn't that the same as compromising?

  Tyler Mills commented on idea #5230.

Could you do meal prep for the week? Have meals ready in the freezer so you don’t need to cook every day.

#5230​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

Oh I definitely meal prep. But major room for improvement. Work in progress.

  Tyler Mills commented on idea #5231.

Something I made the other day, recipe in the caption :) https://www.instagram.com/p/Db2DzFplBXq/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

#5231​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

Looks awesome! Didn't realize you have a bodybuilding channel, will check it out.

  Tyler Mills addressed criticism #5228.

Then again, so is not sleeping…

#5228​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

Not sleeping at all certainly damages the rhythm. But for me the current choice is between a chemically-mediated 8-9 hours from, say, 12am to 8am, or a natural 5-6 hours, from 2 or 3am to 8am. Both are similar in terms of the day night cycle, and not close to as bad as sleeping in to noon (and later and later) would be, I think.

  Tyler Mills addressed criticism #5283.

Increase reliability of the quiet apartment search by thoroughly interviewing several neighboring residents.

#5283​·​Tyler MillsOP, 4 days ago

This depends on neighboring residents being home during your apartment tour, and being honest (or correct) about noise pollution (maybe they're causing it and don't know). The search remains an uncertain one, even with great interview participation.

  Tyler Mills addressed criticism #5282.

Finding quiet places in a city is indeed doable, but it's hard to even come close to guaranteeing success. There's no way to sample an apartment for 24 hours before moving in. It comes down to scoping it out, reading reviews, interviewing other residents if you can, then signing the lease and hoping for the best. If it's a bad fit, moving again is a huge, costly hassle.

#5282​·​Tyler MillsOP, 4 days ago

Increase reliability of the quiet apartment search by thoroughly interviewing several neighboring residents.

  Tyler Mills addressed criticism #5236.

You may be overstating the difficulty. IIRC you like rural America. Finding a quiet place to live should be doable, even in cities but especially in rural places. (Believe it or not I once stayed at an Airbnb in Tahoe that was TOO quiet to sleep. It was so quiet it kinda freaked me out. And that’s saying something because I love quiet.)

#5236​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

Finding quiet places in a city is indeed doable, but it's hard to even come close to guaranteeing success. There's no way to sample an apartment for 24 hours before moving in. It comes down to scoping it out, reading reviews, interviewing other residents if you can, then signing the lease and hoping for the best. If it's a bad fit, moving again is a huge, costly hassle.

  Tyler Mills addressed criticism #5236.

You may be overstating the difficulty. IIRC you like rural America. Finding a quiet place to live should be doable, even in cities but especially in rural places. (Believe it or not I once stayed at an Airbnb in Tahoe that was TOO quiet to sleep. It was so quiet it kinda freaked me out. And that’s saying something because I love quiet.)

#5236​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

I would not say I care for rural America. It sounds nice on the one hand, but conflicts with my anti-hermit hangup (I don't want to be isolated from society, at least not too much...). My vague ideal has always been: "big city in the near distance." Agreed that too quiet is a problem but that's trivial to solve compared to too loud.

  Tyler Mills addressed criticism #5227.

But you don’t have that obligation right now, right?

#5227​·​Dennis Hackethal, 9 days ago

I do not have a consistent 9am obligation now, no. But my implicit hope here is to find lasting solutions. I expect to have morning obligations again one day, maybe very soon.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #5212.

So just stay up 18 hours every day, and sleep in the next day by the extra two hours (assuming 8, which seems optimal for me).

#5212​·​Tyler MillsOP, 9 days ago

I tried this for a few days recently. By day three or four I went to bed at around 6am and woke up at 2pm. Didn’t feel great the rest of the day. Went back to a more regular sleep schedule after that and feeling better now.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #5276.

From #1497, emphasis mine:

Discussion title: problem
Top-level ideas in the discussion: proposed solutions
Nested ideas: criticisms, counter-criticisms, and further solutions

This is what I was going off. Did I misunderstand #1497?

#5276​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 5 days ago

You can structure discussions any way you like as long as you make sure the structure won’t break criticism chains.

Comments are for commentary or criticism, not elaborations on the same idea. The same idea shouldn’t be spread over multiple posts. That breaks criticism chains.

Veritula threads don’t work like Twitter/X threads, where people post elaborations on the same idea in comments. They used to have to do that because Twitter enforced a character limit. Now they still do it by tradition. And I’m guessing it’s an adjustment coming to Veritula.

If you realize you need to add more info to an existing idea, put it in a revision, not a comment. Again, #5250 seems like a revision of #5249. The revision of #5249 would then be a combination of both.

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #5276.

From #1497, emphasis mine:

Discussion title: problem
Top-level ideas in the discussion: proposed solutions
Nested ideas: criticisms, counter-criticisms, and further solutions

This is what I was going off. Did I misunderstand #1497?

#5276​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 5 days ago

Possibly yeah. It doesn’t look like you were going off that. #5246 isn’t a proposed solution. Neither is #5250. That’s an elaboration on #5249.

  Benjamin Davies commented on idea #5275.
#5275​·​Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago

From #1497, emphasis mine:

Discussion title: problem
Top-level ideas in the discussion: proposed solutions
Nested ideas: criticisms, counter-criticisms, and further solutions

This is what I was going off. Did I misunderstand #1497?

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #5274.

Would it be better to make them all root ideas?

#5274​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 days ago
  Benjamin Davies commented on criticism #5270.

This approach breaks search functions, where the system only goes off the ‘Criticized’ flag. Now the system shows some ideas as rationally adoptable even though they aren’t.

#5270​·​Dennis Hackethal, 7 days ago

Would it be better to make them all root ideas?

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #5269.

But the UI won’t reflect that automatically. Now you have to remember which threads have structure and which don’t. Will you remember that, say, six months from now?

But the UI won’t reflect that automatically. Now you have to remember which threads have this structure and which don’t. Will you remember that, say, six months from now?

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #5267.

They are separate ideas, and the latter ideas depend on their formers. If there is a flaw in former ideas, they apply to latter ideas, but if there is a flaw in latter ideas, they don’t necessarily apply to the former. So arranging them like this was intentional, to respect that hierarchy.

#5267​·​Benjamin DaviesOP revised 8 days ago

This approach breaks search functions, where the system only goes off the ‘Criticized’ flag. Now the system shows some ideas as rationally adoptable even though they aren’t.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #5267.

They are separate ideas, and the latter ideas depend on their formers. If there is a flaw in former ideas, they apply to latter ideas, but if there is a flaw in latter ideas, they don’t necessarily apply to the former. So arranging them like this was intentional, to respect that hierarchy.

#5267​·​Benjamin DaviesOP revised 8 days ago

But the UI won’t reflect that automatically. Now you have to remember which threads have structure and which don’t. Will you remember that, say, six months from now?

  Benjamin Davies revised criticism #5266.

They are seperate ideas, and the latter ideas depend on the former. If there is a flaw in former ideas, they apply to latter ideas, but if there is a flaw in latter ideas, they don’t necessarily apply to the former. So arranging them like this was intentional, to respect that hierarchy.

They are separate ideas, and the latter ideas depend on their formers. If there is a flaw in former ideas, they apply to latter ideas, but if there is a flaw in latter ideas, they don’t necessarily apply to the former. So arranging them like this was intentional, to respect that hierarchy.