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  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #5719.

Reiterating/refining #3904: There should be a graphical indication for pending criticisms. The dropdown line should be red if the comment it leads to is a pending criticism.

#5719​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 days ago

This says nothing about the yellow color of the criticisms pills, which I think Tyler is saying are too harsh on the eyes.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #5722.

That doesn’t mean the pill has to say yellow. Too harsh.

That doesn’t mean the pill has to stay yellow. Too harsh.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #5710.

Would avoid putting it in a tooltip. Best to keep it for accessibility. Communicating only with lines and colors is too little information.

#5710​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 days ago

That doesn’t mean the pill has to say yellow. Too harsh.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #5712.

Reiterating/refining #3904: I think the yellow "Criticism of" bubbles can and should be replaced by a graphical indication that is much easier on the eyes. The dropdown line can be made red if the comment it leads to is a criticism, and the bubble on the criticism can be eliminated. Reading the yellow bubble to get the idea # it is referring to, then searching the ideas above for the matching # is inelegant (even if it is usually the one right above).

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

#5712​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 days ago

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

Would get alternating dim and bright depending on insertion order. Confusing!

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #5717. The revision addresses idea #4828.

Reiterating/refining #3904: I think the yellow "Criticism of" bubbles can and should be replaced by a graphical indication that is much easier on the eyes. The dropdown line can be made red if the comment it leads to is a criticism, and the bubble on the criticism can be eliminated. Reading the yellow bubble to get the idea # it is referring to, then searching the ideas above for the matching # is inelegant (even if it is usually the one right above).

Reiterating/refining #3904: There should be a graphical indication for pending criticisms. The dropdown line should be red if the comment it leads to is a pending criticism.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #5712. The revision addresses ideas #5715 and #5716.

Reiterating/refining #3904: I think the yellow "Criticism of" bubbles can and should be replaced by a graphical indication that is much easier on the eyes. The dropdown line can be made red if the comment it leads to is a criticism, and the bubble on the criticism can be eliminated. Reading the yellow bubble to get the idea # it is referring to, then searching the ideas above for the matching # is inelegant (even if it is usually the one right above).

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

Reiterating/refining #3904: I think the yellow "Criticism of" bubbles can and should be replaced by a graphical indication that is much easier on the eyes. The dropdown line can be made red if the comment it leads to is a criticism, and the bubble on the criticism can be eliminated. Reading the yellow bubble to get the idea # it is referring to, then searching the ideas above for the matching # is inelegant (even if it is usually the one right above).

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #5712.

Reiterating/refining #3904: I think the yellow "Criticism of" bubbles can and should be replaced by a graphical indication that is much easier on the eyes. The dropdown line can be made red if the comment it leads to is a criticism, and the bubble on the criticism can be eliminated. Reading the yellow bubble to get the idea # it is referring to, then searching the ideas above for the matching # is inelegant (even if it is usually the one right above).

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

#5712​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 days ago

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

It’s more in line with refute.us if non-pending criticisms are neutralized, ie gray as well.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #5712.

Reiterating/refining #3904: I think the yellow "Criticism of" bubbles can and should be replaced by a graphical indication that is much easier on the eyes. The dropdown line can be made red if the comment it leads to is a criticism, and the bubble on the criticism can be eliminated. Reading the yellow bubble to get the idea # it is referring to, then searching the ideas above for the matching # is inelegant (even if it is usually the one right above).

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

#5712​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 days ago

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

Tried it – unfortunately, there aren’t enough shades of red to easily tell the difference.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4830.

The quote

indentation bar

is red, which would cause visual confusion.

#4830​·​Tyler Mills, 6 months ago

Not red anymore. Gray as of 5b3358f.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #4827. The revision addresses idea #4833.

Reiterating/refining #3904: I think the yellow "Criticism of" bubbles can and should be replaced by a graphical indication that is much easier on the eyes. The dropdown line can be made red if the comment it leads to is a criticism, and the bubble on the criticism can be eliminated. Reading the yellow bubble to get the idea # it is referring to, then searching the ideas above for the matching # is inelegant (even if it is usually the one right above).

Reiterating/refining #3904: I think the yellow "Criticism of" bubbles can and should be replaced by a graphical indication that is much easier on the eyes. The dropdown line can be made red if the comment it leads to is a criticism, and the bubble on the criticism can be eliminated. Reading the yellow bubble to get the idea # it is referring to, then searching the ideas above for the matching # is inelegant (even if it is usually the one right above).

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #4833.

And dimmer red for refuted criticisms, brighter red for pending ones! Default gray for comments.

#4833​·​Tyler Mills, 6 months ago

Best to put additional information in a revision of the target idea, not as a comment. Comments aren’t for chronological addition of information like on X or Reddit.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4832.

The link could be put in a new tooltip, or something. Or kept as is, just without the yellow bubble, frankly.

#4832​·​Tyler Mills, 6 months ago

Would avoid putting it in a tooltip. Best to keep it for accessibility. Communicating only with lines and colors is too little information.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4829.

Is it handy? I have yet to want to open the criticized idea in a new tab. I have only ever wanted to scroll up to see it, which is slightly irksome with the current yellow bubble hashtag-matching method. And when the criticized idea is clearly immediately above, the yellow bubbles serve no real purpose, only add visual clutter.

#4829​·​Tyler Mills, 6 months ago

I have yet to want to open the criticized idea in a new tab

I do that on occasion and like being able to do it. Other users may, too.

  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #5148 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #5145 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #4837 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #4767 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4768.

Need time indicators again, for when an idea was posted, like we used to have. But shorter: something like ‘1h’

#4768​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 6 months ago

Fixed as of d633dc3.

  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #422 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #5705.

Fixed as of 76299a2.

Fixed as of 76299a2, see eg https://veritula.com/ideas/3951-done-as-of-cc1ab95-ruby-example-ruby-def/revisions/2. (Click on “Expand unchanged parts”.)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #2712.

Now that diffs are formatted, they don’t omit unchanged lines anymore.

#2712​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 11 months ago

Fixed as of 76299a2.

  Dennis Hackethal archived idea #3950 along with any revisions.
  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #3951.

Done as of cc1ab95.

Ruby example:

ruby
def criticized? idea
pending_criticisms(idea).any?
end
def pending_criticisms idea
criticisms(idea).filter { |c| pending_criticisms(c).none? }
end
def criticisms idea
children(idea).filter(&:criticism?)
end

JS example (h/t ChatGPT):

javascript
function criticized(idea) {
return pendingCriticisms(idea).length > 0;
}
function pendingCriticisms(idea) {
return criticisms(idea).filter(c => pendingCriticisms(c).length === 0);
}
function criticisms(idea) {
return children(idea).filter(c => c.isCriticism);
}

Done as of 65dba4b.

Ruby example:

ruby
def criticized? idea
pending_criticisms(idea).any?
end
def pending_criticisms idea
criticisms(idea).filter { |c| pending_criticisms(c).none? }
end
def criticisms idea
children(idea).filter(&:criticism?)
end

JS example (h/t ChatGPT):

javascript
function criticized(idea) {
return pendingCriticisms(idea).length > 0;
}
function pendingCriticisms(idea) {
return criticisms(idea).filter(c => pendingCriticisms(c).length === 0);
}
function criticisms(idea) {
return children(idea).filter(c => c.isCriticism);
}
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4013.

There’s a small issue related to previewing changes in code blocks: even when there are no changes yet, if the code overflows horizontally, the scroll shadow is shown through DOM manipulation, which in turn triggers the diffing library into thinking the user made a change.

So then the same code block is shown without any changes, under the ‘Changes’ tab, which is confusing. It should still just say ‘No changes’.

#4013​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 months ago

Fixed as of 7134d27.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #4024.

The diff view can’t handle the removal/replacement of entire code blocks yet. The removed block looks broken, the new block doesn’t show at all. See activity 3207 in dev.

#4024​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 8 months ago

Fixed as of b2a2a32 at the latest.