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#6063·Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 days ago·AI-assistedTyler suggested (#3904) we use the chart type from Kialo:
Could be a useful visualization in addition to trees.
Each top-level idea would be the center node. Then red segments around it for pending criticisms. Gray for non-pending criticisms and neutral comments.
Unlike Kialo, though, segments with the same parent would all be the same size: they’d split their parent’s arc equally between them.
Gray for both non-pending criticisms and neutral comments makes them look alike, though a criticism that’s been addressed is still part of the argument and a comment never was. The visual tree’s discs keep them apart: criticisms are red and comments gray, solid if rationally adoptable and hollow if not.
Segments with the same parent split its arc equally, so they stay within it (#6062).
Tyler suggested (#3904) we use the chart type from Kialo:
Could be a useful visualization in addition to trees.
Each top-level idea would be the center node. Then red segments around it for pending criticisms. Gray for non-pending criticisms and neutral comments.
Unlike Kialo, though, each segment would have the same size as the other segments on its circle.
Tyler suggested (#3904) we use the chart type from Kialo:
Could be a useful visualization in addition to trees.
Each top-level idea would be the center node. Then red segments around it for pending criticisms. Gray for non-pending criticisms and neutral comments.
Unlike Kialo, though, segments with the same parent would all be the same size: they’d split their parent’s arc equally between them.
#5730·Dennis HackethalOP, 27 days agoTyler suggested (#3904) we use the chart type from Kialo:
Could be a useful visualization in addition to trees.
Each top-level idea would be the center node. Then red segments around it for pending criticisms. Gray for non-pending criticisms and neutral comments.
Unlike Kialo, though, each segment would have the same size as the other segments on its circle.
Segments can’t all be the same size on their circle and still sit within their parent’s arc. Say an idea has two criticisms, which split the first circle in half. If one gets a single reply and the other gets five, each of the six segments on the second circle takes a sixth of it, so the five replies span five sixths of the circle, well past their parent’s half. The chart would then no longer show what replies to what.
#5371·Dennis HackethalOP, 2 months agoIdea: showing the quickest way to rehabilitate an idea.
Could be a visual feature showing something like the shortest path down a discussion tree where a criticism needs to be addressed.
Or all such branches.
Such a thing has probably been done in graph theory before, could look for existing algorithms.
Each reply answers one idea, so addressing an idea’s pending criticisms directly is always the quickest way to rehabilitate it: one new criticism for each. Going further down the tree never takes fewer, so there’s no shorter path to show. What helps is going through them one at a time, which the guide now does (#2628).
#2628·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year agoFeature idea: page at /ideas/:id/guide which shows you an idea and helps you address all pending criticisms one by one, if any. At the end, it shows a message ‘You’re all set!’ or something like that.
Done, live now. Every idea with pending criticisms has “Rehabilitate” under it, which opens that idea’s guide, and “Guide” in the navbar goes through all of yours, starting with the ideas closest to being adoptable. Either way, it’s one pending criticism at a time: you can criticize it, revise the idea, move on, or skip. Moving on is the abandoning from #4089: it sets the idea aside for you alone, and the idea comes back if it gets new criticisms.
#6043·Dennis HackethalOP, 5 days agoIdea: AI suggests criticisms to address before you even submit your idea.
Same criticism as #6058: this feature would need to pay its rent somehow.
#6056·Dennis HackethalOP revised 5 days agoNeed summaries at top of discussions and for nodes in the discussion tree. Could be AI generated.
Maybe one day, when Veritula makes enough to pay for this feature.
Expand summaries to nodes in discussion trees
Need summaries at top of discussions. Could be AI generated.
Need summaries at top of discussions and for nodes in the discussion tree. Could be AI generated.
#2912·Dennis HackethalOP, 12 months ago‘Discussions’ are too narrow a term for a collection of ideas. See #2878.
While ideas should always be ‘discussable’, that doesn’t mean everyone who wants to share an idea always wants to start a discussion. Maybe they just want to put some information out there.
Since people can now post on their profiles, there’s arguably no need for something other than ‘discussions’ outside of profiles anymore.
#2912·Dennis HackethalOP, 12 months ago‘Discussions’ are too narrow a term for a collection of ideas. See #2878.
While ideas should always be ‘discussable’, that doesn’t mean everyone who wants to share an idea always wants to start a discussion. Maybe they just want to put some information out there.
Renaming costs a lot. URLs like /discussions/… would need redirects, and the MCP tools and the code all say ‘discussion’.
#2912·Dennis HackethalOP, 12 months ago‘Discussions’ are too narrow a term for a collection of ideas. See #2878.
While ideas should always be ‘discussable’, that doesn’t mean everyone who wants to share an idea always wants to start a discussion. Maybe they just want to put some information out there.
Chronicles depend on the word ‘discussion’. They retell discussions, like the one between Newton’s and Einstein’s theories.
#2912·Dennis HackethalOP, 12 months ago‘Discussions’ are too narrow a term for a collection of ideas. See #2878.
While ideas should always be ‘discussable’, that doesn’t mean everyone who wants to share an idea always wants to start a discussion. Maybe they just want to put some information out there.
#2912·Dennis HackethalOP, 12 months ago‘Discussions’ are too narrow a term for a collection of ideas. See #2878.
While ideas should always be ‘discussable’, that doesn’t mean everyone who wants to share an idea always wants to start a discussion. Maybe they just want to put some information out there.
The word ‘discussion’ sets the right expectation. Veritula is built on the idea that anything you post can be criticized. ‘Entry’, ‘post’, ‘note’, etc suggest a place to put information out unchallenged. Someone who only wants to share information can already do that with a single top-level idea.
No changes to the text.
‘Board’
#6044·Moritz Wallawitsch, 5 days agoIt would be nice to have a changelog as i cannot see the commit history (ex. of one of an app i built https://understandtutor.com/changelog)
https://veritula.com/discussions/veritula-meta/activities
It’s not quite the same but should give you an idea.
#6033·Dennis HackethalOP, 6 days ago·AI-assistedBoth done, as of
3945f28aand82b641de. Long ideas now show cut short, with a Read more button that expands them in place. Discussions open with settled branches collapsed: the replies to comments and to addressed criticisms sit behind a plus on their gutter line. Pending criticisms, which decide whether an idea can be adopted, stay open. In most browsers, Cmd+F still finds text in collapsed branches and opens them.
It would be nice to have a changelog as i cannot see the commit history (ex. of one of an app i built https://understandtutor.com/changelog)
Idea: AI suggests criticisms to address before you even submit your idea.
#4728·Moritz Wallawitsch, 7 months agoThe UI needs to be more minimalistic. Too many buttons to click on. Needs clear primary action on every screen.
As of today’s deploy, ideas show far fewer buttons. The edit, repost, react, subscribe and menu buttons in an idea’s header stay hidden until you hover over the idea. The same goes for the React button in the activity feed and on profiles. Comment and Criticize are plain text rather than gray boxes. So while you read, those two are the only actions you see. Whether an idea is a criticism now shows in its header, not in a pill under the text.