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  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #1547.

The crust could be crispier.

#1547 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

According to this site, making the crust thinner should make it crispier.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1555.
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Then, for garnish:

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About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1555.

Ingredients

  • Store-bought dough (1 pound)
  • Crushed tomatoes (100g)
  • Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 114g)

Then, for garnish:

  • Oregano
  • Fresh basil leaves
  • 4g of salt

Steps

  1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
  2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
  3. Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
  4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.
  5. Grate cheese.
  6. Stretch the dough.
  7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.
  8. Remove excess flour from dough.
  9. Place dough on peel.
  10. Add the tomato sauce.
  11. Add cheese.
  12. Turn off broiler.
  13. Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
  14. Bake for 6 minutes.

Results:

Not quite as good as last time. I overcompensated and the center wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.

The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.

Waiting for the dough to reach room temp before stretching makes a big difference; much easier.

I got the bottom down, I usually get a nice leopard print. What I need to work on is getting the center thin enough (but not too thin) and the crust crispier.

#1555 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Center could have slightly thinner.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1554.
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The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.why.↵
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Waiting for the dough to reach room temp before stretching makes a big difference; much easier.↵
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I got the bottom down, I usually get a nice leopard print. What I need to work on is getting the center thin enough (but not too thin) and the crust crispier.
About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1551.
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Not quite as good as last time. I overcompensated and the bottomcenter wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.

The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.
About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1551.

Ingredients

  • Store-bought dough (1 pound)
  • Crushed tomatoes (100g)
  • Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 114g)

Then, for garnish:

  • Oregano
  • Fresh basil leaves
  • 4g of salt

Steps

  1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
  2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
  3. Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
  4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.
  5. Grate cheese.
  6. Stretch the dough.
  7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.
  8. Remove excess flour from dough.
  9. Place dough on peel.
  10. Add the tomato sauce.
  11. Add cheese.
  12. Turn off broiler.
  13. Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
  14. Bake for 6 minutes.

Results:

Not quite as good as last time. I overcompensated and the bottom wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.

The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.

#1551 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Place on steel more carefully so it comes out circular.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1551.

Ingredients

  • Store-bought dough (1 pound)
  • Crushed tomatoes (100g)
  • Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 114g)

Then, for garnish:

  • Oregano
  • Fresh basil leaves
  • 4g of salt

Steps

  1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere around 450°F.
  2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 630°F.
  3. Rest dough until it reaches room temperature.
  4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.
  5. Grate cheese.
  6. Stretch the dough.
  7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.
  8. Remove excess flour from dough.
  9. Place dough on peel.
  10. Add the tomato sauce.
  11. Add cheese.
  12. Turn off broiler.
  13. Place dough on steel; still on top rack.
  14. Bake for 6 minutes.

Results:

Not quite as good as last time. I overcompensated and the bottom wasn’t thin enough. The crust is my weakest skill, it tasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.

The dough was nice and circular this time until I placed it on the pizza steel. It got kinda skewed, not sure why.

#1551 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Still too salty. Try 3g next time.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1535. The revision addresses ideas #1513, #1536, #1537, #1544, #1545, #1549.

Fourth try

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Then,114g)↵
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Then, for garnish:

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1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere between 450 and 500°F.↵
2.around 450°F.↵
2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 620°F.↵
3.630°F.↵
3. Rest dough at room temperature for about 1.5 hours. It felt likeuntil it had reached aboutreaches room temp.↵
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4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.

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12. Turn off broiler.↵
13. Place dough on steel; still on top rack with the broiler on.↵
13.rack.↵
14. Bake for 2.5 minutes.↵
14. Take out to add cheese.↵
15. Move to bottom rack for another 2.5 minutes.↵
16. Move back to top rack for 1 min.↵
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Results (markedly better again than last time):↵
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Results:↵
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- Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/R5NC0NVP1M#lEvW9YodqSZR↵
-https://drive.proton.me/urls/NZH3KGHFK4#Ot5GzAmPSSVY↵
- Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/RYQPFZJSCR#LQKeZiiTbp9G↵
- Bottom (another slice): https://drive.proton.me/urls/N7VM0C48P8#XSP9bVZUyxUz↵
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Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. Ifhttps://drive.proton.me/urls/5BTWJZWAT8#1I0epT902wJZ↵
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Not quite as good as last time. I put the steel onovercompensated and the bottom rack (whichwasn’t thin enough. The crust is directly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on,my weakest skill, it hovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.↵
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Thetasted doughy and solid, not light and crispy.↵
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The doughcame out really good this time. It was lightnice and fluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it –circular this time until I think that’s whyplaced it on the pizza steel. It got so hard last time.↵
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I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.kinda skewed, not sure why.
About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #578.

Add emphasis

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And I’d go one step further: not only do they not conflict, physical determinism is *required* for free will to exist. It is because*because* computers obey physical determinism that they are able to run programs in the first place, including creative programs, ie programs with free will.
About 2 months ago · ‘Is the Brain a Computer?’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1535.

Ingredients

  • Store-bought dough (1 pound)
  • Crushed tomatoes (100g)
  • Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 150g)

Then, for garnish:

  • Oregano
  • Fresh basil leaves
  • 5g of salt

Steps

  1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere between 450 and 500°F.
  2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 620°F.
  3. Rest dough at room temperature for about 1.5 hours. It felt like it had reached about room temp.
  4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.
  5. Grate cheese.
  6. Stretch the dough.
  7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.
  8. Remove excess flour from dough.
  9. Place dough on peel.
  10. Add the tomato sauce.
  11. Add cheese.
  12. Place dough on steel; still on top rack with the broiler on.
  13. Bake for 2.5 minutes.
  14. Take out to add cheese.
  15. Move to bottom rack for another 2.5 minutes.
  16. Move back to top rack for 1 min.

Results (markedly better again than last time):

Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. If I put the steel on the bottom rack (which is directly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on, it hovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.

The dough came out really good this time. It was light and fluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it – I think that’s why it got so hard last time.

I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.

#1535 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

The dough ended up too spread out, too big, so I tried to ‘compress’ it a bit, which creates wrinkles.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1534.

Adding more salt as a ‘topping’ helped improve the taste of the pizza overall. Decent workaround for now.

#1534 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

I learned in #1535 that mixing the salt into the tomato sauce is a far better approach. It spreads the saltiness evenly across the pie.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1535.

Ingredients

  • Store-bought dough (1 pound)
  • Crushed tomatoes (100g)
  • Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 150g)

Then, for garnish:

  • Oregano
  • Fresh basil leaves
  • 5g of salt

Steps

  1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere between 450 and 500°F.
  2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 620°F.
  3. Rest dough at room temperature for about 1.5 hours. It felt like it had reached about room temp.
  4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.
  5. Grate cheese.
  6. Stretch the dough.
  7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.
  8. Remove excess flour from dough.
  9. Place dough on peel.
  10. Add the tomato sauce.
  11. Add cheese.
  12. Place dough on steel; still on top rack with the broiler on.
  13. Bake for 2.5 minutes.
  14. Take out to add cheese.
  15. Move to bottom rack for another 2.5 minutes.
  16. Move back to top rack for 1 min.

Results (markedly better again than last time):

Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. If I put the steel on the bottom rack (which is directly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on, it hovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.

The dough came out really good this time. It was light and fluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it – I think that’s why it got so hard last time.

I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.

#1535 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

The crust could be crispier.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1537.
During parbaking, the pizza burnt slightly in the middle, on top. Next time, I can probably reduce the parbake time to 2 minutes. Or I could just move the steel to the middle rack before placing the pizza on it and doingdo a single bake for about 5 minutes.
About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1535.

Ingredients

  • Store-bought dough (1 pound)
  • Crushed tomatoes (100g)
  • Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 150g)

Then, for garnish:

  • Oregano
  • Fresh basil leaves
  • 5g of salt

Steps

  1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere between 450 and 500°F.
  2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 620°F.
  3. Rest dough at room temperature for about 1.5 hours. It felt like it had reached about room temp.
  4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.
  5. Grate cheese.
  6. Stretch the dough.
  7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.
  8. Remove excess flour from dough.
  9. Place dough on peel.
  10. Add the tomato sauce.
  11. Add cheese.
  12. Place dough on steel; still on top rack with the broiler on.
  13. Bake for 2.5 minutes.
  14. Take out to add cheese.
  15. Move to bottom rack for another 2.5 minutes.
  16. Move back to top rack for 1 min.

Results (markedly better again than last time):

Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. If I put the steel on the bottom rack (which is directly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on, it hovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.

The dough came out really good this time. It was light and fluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it – I think that’s why it got so hard last time.

I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.

#1535 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Too much salt. Try 3 or 4g next time.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1507. The revision addresses idea #1541.
The dough was bland and not very crispy.hard/tough.
About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #1507.

The dough was bland and not very crispy.

#1507 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Describing it as “not very crispy” is vague. That could mean it was too soft or too hard. In reality, it was too hard.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1508.

Presumably, I need to get the oven hotter. I could try moving the steel right underneath the broiler while preheating.

#1508 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

I now think that heat wasn’t that big of a problem; I believe I overcooked the dough.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1508.

Presumably, I need to get the oven hotter. I could try moving the steel right underneath the broiler while preheating.

#1508 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

In #1535, I learned that my steel reaches around 620°F under the broiler. That’s plenty hot to make pizza at home.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1518.
Improved insince #1515 but could still be better.
About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1535.

Ingredients

  • Store-bought dough (1 pound)
  • Crushed tomatoes (100g)
  • Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 150g)

Then, for garnish:

  • Oregano
  • Fresh basil leaves
  • 5g of salt

Steps

  1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere between 450 and 500°F.
  2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 620°F.
  3. Rest dough at room temperature for about 1.5 hours. It felt like it had reached about room temp.
  4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.
  5. Grate cheese.
  6. Stretch the dough.
  7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.
  8. Remove excess flour from dough.
  9. Place dough on peel.
  10. Add the tomato sauce.
  11. Add cheese.
  12. Place dough on steel; still on top rack with the broiler on.
  13. Bake for 2.5 minutes.
  14. Take out to add cheese.
  15. Move to bottom rack for another 2.5 minutes.
  16. Move back to top rack for 1 min.

Results (markedly better again than last time):

Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. If I put the steel on the bottom rack (which is directly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on, it hovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.

The dough came out really good this time. It was light and fluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it – I think that’s why it got so hard last time.

I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.

#1535 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

During parbaking, the pizza burnt slightly in the middle, on top. Next time, I can probably reduce the parbake time to 2 minutes. Or I could just move the steel to the middle rack before placing the pizza on it and doing a single bake for about 5 minutes.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1535.

Ingredients

  • Store-bought dough (1 pound)
  • Crushed tomatoes (100g)
  • Mozzarella (whole milk, shredded, 150g)

Then, for garnish:

  • Oregano
  • Fresh basil leaves
  • 5g of salt

Steps

  1. Preheat oven for 1 hour. Ends up somewhere between 450 and 500°F.
  2. Preheat pizza steel for 30 min on top rack underneath broiler, reaches about 620°F.
  3. Rest dough at room temperature for about 1.5 hours. It felt like it had reached about room temp.
  4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.
  5. Grate cheese.
  6. Stretch the dough.
  7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.
  8. Remove excess flour from dough.
  9. Place dough on peel.
  10. Add the tomato sauce.
  11. Add cheese.
  12. Place dough on steel; still on top rack with the broiler on.
  13. Bake for 2.5 minutes.
  14. Take out to add cheese.
  15. Move to bottom rack for another 2.5 minutes.
  16. Move back to top rack for 1 min.

Results (markedly better again than last time):

Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. If I put the steel on the bottom rack (which is directly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on, it hovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.

The dough came out really good this time. It was light and fluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it – I think that’s why it got so hard last time.

I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.

#1535 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

The center of the dough got a touch too thin and I ripped a small hole in it.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1524. The revision addresses ideas #1507, #1511, #1519, #1521, #1522, #1525, #1527.

Third try

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2. Preheat pizza steel for 1 hour30 min on gas range (biggest burner). Reachedtop rack underneath broiler, reaches about 565°F in the center.↵
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3. Rest dough at room temperature for about 50 min.↵
3. Stretch the dough.↵
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4. Add salt to the tomato sauce.↵
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5. Grate cheese.↵
6. Stretch the dough.↵
7. Dust the pizza peel with flour.↵
8. Remove excess flour and place pizzafrom dough.↵
9. Place dough on peel.↵
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10. Add the tomato sauce.↵
11. Add cheese.↵
12. Place pizzadough on steel and put in oven.↵
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13. Bake for about 5 minutes.↵
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14. Take out to add cheese.↵
15. Move to bottom rack, bake for 3 more minutes.↵
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Results (markedly better again than last time):

- Above: https://drive.proton.me/urls/618VS4BQ1W#y1YUOlucAiip↵
- Undercarriage: https://drive.proton.me/urls/VG7N7A0T60#QuIYGYTL8hoU↵
- Slice: https://drive.proton.me/urls/RPWZT8TSGC#vrONWXDkxIA5Top: https://drive.proton.me/urls/R5NC0NVP1M#lEvW9YodqSZR↵
- Bottom: https://drive.proton.me/urls/RYQPFZJSCR#LQKeZiiTbp9G↵
- Bottom (another slice): https://drive.proton.me/urls/N7VM0C48P8#XSP9bVZUyxUz↵
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Got the thermo gun today and played around with it. If I put the steel on the bottom rack (which is directly above the heat source), it hovers at around 450 after about 40 min. But on the top rack with the broiler on, it hovered at around 620 after another 30 min. (It may reach that temp sooner, I didn’t check.) 620 is plenty hot to make pizza.↵
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The dough came out really good this time. It was light and fluffy in most places, even had some crispy air bubbles. I had previously overcooked it – I think that’s why it got so hard last time.↵
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I found myself moaning as I ate this pie and wanting more afterwards.
About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #1507.

The dough was bland and not very crispy.

#1507 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Adding more salt as a ‘topping’ helped improve the taste of the pizza overall. Decent workaround for now.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1532.

Might be better if I made my own dough.

#1532 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

I don’t think I’m ready for that. It’s an added difficulty, another task to master; let’s get the other stuff right first. Once I’ve gotten pretty good at that, I can make my own dough.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’
  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #1507.

The dough was bland and not very crispy.

#1507 · Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Might be better if I made my own dough.

About 2 months ago · ‘Baking Pizza in a Home Oven’