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#4749·Tyler MillsOP, 27 days agoSOLUTION: The apple programs give rise to consciousness only in a given context. Only when run a certain why, by a person.
This suggests that programs can be “run differently” to result in a different computation. This is false because it violates Substrate Independence: the instantiation of a program is unaffected by its physical implementation. If a “context” changes what the program is computing, then that’s a different program. Suggesting that a person running the apple programs “makes them” conscious therefore is not sound. The programs are either conscious or not. If they were, by (A1), they would be people.
#4748·Tyler MillsOP, 27 days agoPROBLEM: Why are we conscious of the apple rendering? Given (6), why is there an experience of it, if the programs comprising it are looping, and so are therefore predefined?
SOLUTION: The apple programs give rise to consciousness only in a given context. Only when run a certain why, by a person.
#4747·Tyler MillsOP, 27 days ago(7) We can be conscious of the apple imagery for the entire 5 seconds.
PROBLEM: Why are we conscious of the apple rendering? Given (6), why is there an experience of it, if the programs comprising it are looping, and so are therefore predefined?
#4746·Tyler MillsOP, 27 days ago(6) Repeated running of the same fixed program is automatic, requires no creativity, and cannot constitute experience.
(7) We can be conscious of the apple imagery for the entire 5 seconds.
#4745·Tyler MillsOP, 27 days ago(5) Repeated running of the same fixed program, not being a person, does not make it a person.
(6) Repeated running of the same fixed program is automatic, requires no creativity, and cannot constitute experience.
#4743·Tyler MillsOP revised 27 days ago(4) The programs rendering the apple are not people, so cannot themselves constitute experience.
(5) Repeated running of the same fixed program, not being a person, does not make it a person.
(4) By A1, the programs rendering the apple are not people, so cannot themselves constitute experience.
(4) The programs rendering the apple are not people, so cannot themselves constitute experience.
(4) The programs rendering the apple are not people, so cannot themselves constitute experience.
(4) By A1, the programs rendering the apple are not people, so cannot themselves constitute experience.
Assumption A1: Only programs that are people while running constitute qualia/experience/subjectivity/consciousness.
#4738·Tyler MillsOP, 27 days ago(3) The programs rendering the apple imagery must be looping until stopped, since they could not have advance knowledge of when the stimulus stops.
(4) The programs rendering the apple are not people, so cannot themselves constitute experience.
#4737·Tyler MillsOP, 27 days ago(2) The rendering is caused by the running of some number of programs.
(3) The programs rendering the apple imagery must be looping until stopped, since they could not have advance knowledge of when the stimulus stops.
#4736·Tyler MillsOP, 27 days ago(1) During the entire 5 seconds, your mind renders the image of the apple.
(2) The rendering is caused by the running of some number of programs.
Can a program which is not a person constitute an experience?
Imagine you are in a pitch black room. Before your eyes, a spotlight illuminates an apple for 5 seconds before darkness returns. Among other things, your mind will render the image of the apple for the 5 seconds, then it will not (afterimages aside). Assume the physical stimulus is identical for the whole 5 seconds.
Itemized discussion below.
(1) During the entire 5 seconds, your mind renders the image of the apple.
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Interesting read.
#4730·Moritz Wallawitsch, 29 days agoNot if the criticism is clear and concise. That should be incentivized somehow.
A discussion can get long even if each criticism is concise.
Someone who recently joined made a bunch of low-quality posts in a short amount of time.
#4614·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 month agoNeed rate limiting for new users to prevent excessive posting.
why?
#4727·Dennis HackethalOP, 29 days agoNeed summaries at top of discussions. Could be AI generated.
Not if the criticism is clear and concise. That should be incentivized somehow.
A discussion needs to be more skimmable via one or both of these:
1. hide long posts behind "read more" button
2. collapse critique chains/threads behind a "reply more" button
The UI needs to be more minimalistic. Too many buttons to click on. Needs clear primary action on every screen.
Need summaries at top of discussions. Could be AI generated.
Add missing word
Making a Minecraft with AI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxmPfBODGuw&list=PLBGDngphGY_2ZC8eNc39yPxfc_RZDtQSN
Making a Minecraft clone with AI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxmPfBODGuw&list=PLBGDngphGY_2ZC8eNc39yPxfc_RZDtQSN
Making a Minecraft with AI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxmPfBODGuw&list=PLBGDngphGY_2ZC8eNc39yPxfc_RZDtQSN
#4684·Tyler MillsOP, about 1 month agoSince evolution created genetic knowledge from nothing, it can be said to have the same "narrow creativity" as AI. The confusion over whether AI "is creative" can be resolved by saying that it is, but only narrowly (like evolution), and that the creativity defining people is universal, not limited to any domain. AI creates knowledge in domains it was designed for; AGI can create knowledge in all possible domains, each of which it designs itself.
Criticized per #4718: AIs are not "narrowly creative"; there is only creativity in the binary, universal sense, per Deutsch.