Dennis Hackethal
@dennis.hackethal·Joined Jun 2024·2,892 ideas: 1,920 adoptable, 972 rejectable
Founder Veritula.
Author. Software engineer. Ex Apple. Translator of The Beginning of Infinity.
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#2753·Benjamin Davies revised 12 months agoIdea: Veritula Articles
Currently, Veritula is a discussion website. I believe it could one day do what Wikipedia and Grokipedia do, but better.
A step towards that would be enabling users to produce ‘articles’ or something similar.
An ‘Articles’ tab would be distinct from the ‘Discussions’ tab, featuring explanatory documents similar to encyclopedia entries, and perhaps also blogpost-like content.
Articles focus on distilling the good ideas created/discovered in the discussions that occur on Veritula.
What you said you were after, posting ideas without starting a discussion (#2813), is possible now: you can post on your profile (#4399). And as of f27080b9, the activity feed has a Profiles tab for browsing those posts.
Archiving #2753 for now, since #2751 and #2877 still stand. If profile posts fall short of what you had in mind, leave a criticism and I’ll take a look.
#4824·Tyler Mills, 7 months agoThoughts on an optional "implies" relation for ideas? I find myself commenting on one idea something which it implies, then criticizing that, but the original idea is not marked criticized. Being able to chain or bundle ideas avoids the bookkeeping issue of having to make new criticisms for each step in the chain, if one is criticized.
When it’s your own idea, I recommend adding implications to the idea itself, as part of a revision. That way, criticism chains stay intact.
#4836·Tyler Mills, 7 months agoRelated to this or not, it could be useful to be able to set a bounty on a set of ideas, rather than just one. "Criticize any of these ideas for n$".
You can already fund a bounty on each idea, and a bounty covering several would mean reworking how bounties are paid, shown and won.
I’m archiving #4824 for now, but if you have a case where separate bounties fall short, feel free to reply with a criticism and it’ll be unarchived automatically.
#4824·Tyler Mills, 7 months agoThoughts on an optional "implies" relation for ideas? I find myself commenting on one idea something which it implies, then criticizing that, but the original idea is not marked criticized. Being able to chain or bundle ideas avoids the bookkeeping issue of having to make new criticisms for each step in the chain, if one is criticized.
An ‘implies’ relation would build the implication into the site’s structure, where nobody could criticize it. But whether A implies B should be open to criticism like any other claim. Instead, criticize A directly: ‘A implies B, and C refutes B.’ That criticism stays pending until someone disputes the implication or answers C.
#4422·Benjamin Davies, 8 months agoVeritula should have a 'Posts' tab next to the 'Discussions' tab, where people can browse the things people post on their profiles.
Done as of f27080b9, as tabs on the activity feed rather than a separate Posts tab: All, Discussions, and Profiles.
#4499·Dennis HackethalOP, 8 months agoI first want to see some more people posting to their profiles so there’ll be enough ideas to show in that tab.
There are more profile posts now, and f27080b9 makes it a tab instead of its own page, so fewer posts aren’t as big a deal anyway.
#3166·Benjamin Davies, 11 months ago@dennis-hackethal* see the revision chain on #3164. Revision 5 improved the content but I accidentally removed valuable comments. Revision 6 (a revision of revision 4) brought back the comments but I failed to include the content improvement in revision 5. I then made revision 7 to have both the comments and the improved content.
Maybe it should be possible to amend which comments apply to an idea without needing to make a whole new revision. This could behave weirdly in some edge cases, but it’s food for thought. If you think the way it currently works is going to be best, that seems fine to me.
As of 212b357f, revising goes in steps, and a reply only stays behind if you mark it, with a button that says what that means (“Answered by this revision” or “No longer applies”). That should prevent what happened with #3164.
Changing which replies apply without a new revision would rewrite a version’s history, which the timeline relies on. If replies still get lost, I’d rather let a new revision bring back the ones an earlier version left out.
Archiving #3166 for now. If it happens again, leave a comment and I’ll take a look.
#2163·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year agoRevisions are complicated. Too many options (superseding a previous version, ‘Is criticism?’, unchecking comments). It might help to have a more guided processes over multiple screens.
Done as of 90bfadf1. The revision process is now divided over four guided steps with explanations.
#4729·Moritz Wallawitsch, 7 months agoA discussion needs to be more skimmable via one or both of these:
1. hide long posts behind "read more" button
2. collapse critique chains/threads behind a "reply more" button
Both done, as of 3945f28a and 82b641de. Long ideas now show cut short, with a Read more button that expands them in place. Discussions open with settled branches collapsed: the replies to comments and to addressed criticisms sit behind a plus on their gutter line. Pending criticisms, which decide whether an idea can be adopted, stay open. In most browsers, Cmd+F still finds text in collapsed branches and opens them.
#6031·Michael Briffa, about 21 hours agoEmpty criticism, issue not addressed. The checkbox provides no value and delays badges, limiting the amount one can interact with the site.
Let’s keep this discussion on topic. I’ll follow up with you privately.
#4489·Benjamin Davies, 8 months agoSuggestion: Allow reacts to be used in the activity feed.
That way I can quickly add colour to whatever has been happening recently on the site.
Done as of 6d4f4a70. You can now also reply to ideas directly from the activity feed.
#4513·Dennis HackethalOP, 8 months agoIdea: ability to lock an idea to prevent edits. If you submit the first version, you get to lock the idea. Useful especially on your own profile that you might use as more of a blog and don’t necessarily want others changing your ideas.
Locking isn’t needed. Ideas are already immutable: other people can only add versions. The real problem was which version your profile shows. As of e3507e6f, the wall shows each post as its author last revised it, so other people’s revisions no longer speak for you there, and nobody has to be stopped from improving your ideas.
This criticism applies to #4520 as well.
#5143·Tyler Mills, 3 months agoMy profile shows my revision to #5126 under Wall and under Activity, but not the post itself under the Wall. The revision is a jumble of red and green highlighted text (in this case, because the revision was significant), hard to read. Wall should only show latest versions of posts, not edits to them. Edits should go under Activity. And/or have the previous post versions viewable with the little arrows, as usual (and as done in the idea-focused view, after you click on the idea itself). Always show latest versions of ideas on the Wall so it's clear and easy to read.
Fixed as of 1a588356. Check your profile: