Life Choice: Should Someone Highly Interested in AGI Research Jeopardize Their Existing Career to Pursue It?

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

Option 2: Go on hiatus from the day job/career, and focus on creative pursuits and research, full-time, for some number of months (duration perhaps depending on job opportunities).

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

One rule of thumb financial advisors have told me in the past is to have enough cash on hand to last at least six months without an income.

If you don’t, quitting your job right now could be a bad idea, and your first priority should be to build enough runway.

(This is not financial advice – follow at your own risk.)

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

Agreed, and this is doable.

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

This isn’t a criticism.

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

My thought was to negate (criticize) the "if you don't" portion of your comment, which was a criticism of mine. Unrefuted, yours sits as a criticism of the original, but it isn't...
- Go on hiatus?
- No runway = bad
- Do have runway
How should criticisms with conditionals in them be handled? Is this comment a criticism?!

Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

Well, agreement doesn’t sound like criticism. It sounds like agreement!
But I see now that you meant to say – correct me if I’m wrong – that the six-month minimum of reserves won’t be a problem for you. In which case that indeed neutralizes my criticism. I’ll counter-criticize my own.

Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

Tyler is saying the six-month minimum won’t be an issue.

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Zakery Mizell’s avatar

Consider your current balance of working and research.

Could you cut other activities, keep the job, and increase focus on research?

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

I think I've compressed other activities as much as possible. With the current job, I don't think I can increase focus on research any further. The concerns are over the tradeoffs of leaving the day job (finances, impact to employability, etc.).

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

FWIW, if I was hiring, and I was looking at a resume of someone who always ‘played it safe’ and was very concerned about what others think, I wouldn’t hire them. Whereas I would hire someone who takes smart risks and cares about truth over popularity, even if they have a resume ‘gap’.

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Still learning the art of Veritula (my bad for combining ideas in #3819). From the top, this branch seems to be:
Go on hiatus?
- No hiatus, compress activates
----- Yes hiatus, can't compress. No hiatus because resume gap.
--------- No to resume gap -- So YES hiatus. But currently #3834 flows up and flips to a no-hiatus criticism (because I melded a yes and a no idea in one comment, and Dennis criticized the latter).
------------- Yes hiatus via this comment to correct

"It’s best to write only one criticism at a time."
----- Best, or required, to avoid errors?! (or I'm confused)

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

It’s not strictly required – there are cases where joining multiple criticisms into one comment is fine – but I almost always recommend splitting them, especially for beginners.

Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

… my bad for combining ideas in #3819 …

No worries, and good catch. What you could do, to clean up this branch, is revise #3819 to remove this part:

The concerns are over the tradeoffs of leaving the day job (finances, impact to employability, etc.).

And then, before submitting the revision form, uncheck criticism #3834 underneath the form.

Tyler Mills’s avatar

A related idea is to become more disciplined with my time, getting more out of the off days.

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

So far this has proven ineffective, though a skill which could be improved. However, questions remain for me over whether self-disciplining is good, in general, and where to draw the line between coercion and healthy structure.

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

skill

Self-discipline isn’t a skill. It’s an anti-skill and irrational.

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

Apparently I remain unconvinced of this. I see you've defined discipline in #3833, will continue, there. (How do we draw ligaments between ideas in different threads?! Is this deeper than merely an aesthetic or organizational function? Hmm...)

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

This isn’t a criticism. A criticism must point out some shortcoming. Please read ‘How Does Veritula Work?’

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

(How do we draw ligaments between ideas in different threads?! Is this deeper than merely an aesthetic or organizational function? Hmm...)

Using hash links like you did is fine. But feel free to submit a feature request in the ‘Veritula – Meta’ thread if you have any ideas beyond that.

Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

Discipline means arbitrarily favoring one conflicting idea over another. ‘Arbitrarily’ meaning favoring without resolving the conflict.

You don’t actually know which idea is better, if any, before you resolve the conflict. So siding with one before then is irrational.

Instead of practicing discipline, practice resolving conflicts between ideas and thus finding common preferences with yourself: ideas you wholeheartedly agree with, have no reservations about.

Veritula helps you with that.

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

How far out does the graph of irrational ideas go? Is the argument that: discipline, grit, drive, tenacity and more concepts in this web are all bad/irrational? This is quite a claim. Is "work" bad? Irrational? Work to me means discipline, at least in large part...

I want to understand this. Take the horrible and widespread case of: "I hate my job, and all other jobs that seem available. But I need money to live." How can the conflict be resolved? What is one to do until they resolve it? Surely it is rational to work to make money... Yet in this case, this requires forcing oneself to do something unpleasant; hence the rational thing to do in this case requires discipline.

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

Is the argument that: discipline, grit, drive, tenacity and more concepts in this web are all bad/irrational?

Discipline is irrational because it’s self-coercive by definition. For the others, it depends. Are you being tenacious because you’re forcing yourself to stick to some topic you don’t like? Then it’s irrational. Are you being tenacious because you have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge in that area? Rational.

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How can the conflict be resolved?

By coming up with a new option that has no pending criticisms. We can’t state it in advance.

Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

What is one to do until they resolve it? Surely it is rational to work to make money... Yet in this case, this requires forcing oneself to do something unpleasant; hence the rational thing to do in this case requires discipline.

Well yeah, acting without a solution is self-coercive. But that’s not a refutation of the idea that problems are soluble.

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Tyler Mills’s avatar

So we could say working via discipline to make money tentatively, as part of a problem solving process, is not irrational? I suppose that's what I'm doing now...

Zakery Mizell’s avatar

Have you fully used your cash to free time/energy after work?

You may have money for laundry services, cleaning, cooking, and so on. All the other things that take time in your day can be removed with money, giving you space to do research just fine

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Dennis Hackethal’s avatar

This seems more like a specific implementation of #3782 than a standalone criticism.

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