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Becoming progressively less tired is compatible with physiological causes, such as those I mention in #5241.

#5242​·​Benjamin Davies, 4 days ago​·​Criticism

Diet isn't ruled out just by comparing a large dinner with an empty stomach before bed.

You've said that you often put off eating and struggle to eat as much as you intend to. If you're regularly under-eating or going long stretches without food, that may be keeping adrenaline and cortisol elevated into the evening, making it harder to wind down, fall asleep and stay asleep.

That could also explain why you're physically tired but still mentally alert and able to keep working at night.

#5241​·​Benjamin Davies, 4 days ago​·​Criticism

I should write a blog post about intellectual dementia soon…

#5240​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 days ago

PC 😳

#5239​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 days ago

That said I still think you should go see a sleep doctor, Tyler.

#5238​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago

Found this article illuminating (emphasis mine):

The gradual loss of energy during the day produces a drive to sleep in order to restore that energy. This is known as the homeostatic sleep drive. If the homeostatic process were the only one involved, a person would wake up fully energized and then gradually wind down over the course of the day, like a battery losing power. This would mean an uneven level of alertness during the day, with dangerously low alertness in the afternoon and evening. To counterbalance this, the SCN also regulates alertness by what is known as the circadian process. As the day goes on, and energy winds down, the SCN compensates for this by sending a stronger alertness signal to the brain and body. This alertness signal reaches a peak in the two hours just before bedtime. This zone of maximum alertness is known as the “forbidden zone for sleep” since the alertness signal makes sleep nearly impossible during that zone. When the usual bedtime is reached, the SCN begins to turn down its alertness signal to allow the body to sleep.

The article is on “Non-24-Hour Sleep-Wake Disorder”. I’m obviously no doctor so don’t take anything I say as advice or diagnosis. But from what you’ve said, I wonder if you have that. I think I have the same issue.

The article goes into several causes you could look into. For example, it says exposure to blue light in the morning can help reset one’s internal clock. But that requires a special type of cell on the retina. If those cells don’t work properly, then as far as your internal clock is concerned, you’re effectively blind.

#5237​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago

You may be overstating the difficulty. IIRC you like rural America. Finding a quiet place to live should be doable, even in cities but especially in rural places. (Believe it or not I once stayed at an Airbnb in Tahoe that was TOO quiet to sleep. It was so quiet it kinda freaked me out. And that’s saying something because I love quiet.)

#5236​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

Have you traveled internationally? I’m thinking specifically of flying west for a large distance.

For example, if I fly to the West coast from central Europe and I land at 12pm say. That’s 9 hours behind Europe. And then I try to stay up until 10pm or so. That’s nearly impossible. I’ve fallen asleep with the lights on.

Would be interesting if you still lay awake for an hour or so even when severely jet lagged.

#5235​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago

Isn’t this a criticism?

#5234​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

What’s wrong with using melatonin indefinitely?

AFAIK it creates no physical dependence, you don’t build a tolerance, and it’s cheap. What’s not to love?

#5233​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

Shouldn’t this be a criticism?

#5232​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

Something I made the other day, recipe in the caption :) https://www.instagram.com/p/Db2DzFplBXq/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

#5231​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago

Could you do meal prep for the week? Have meals ready in the freezer so you don’t need to cook every day.

#5230​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago

The cause of procrastination is a conflict between preferences. Part of you wants to take out the trash, another doesn’t. The solution is a common preference: a new option both parts of you prefer to their respective initial position.

Can you identify those parts within you?
Try brainstorming many new options on V. With any luck, you’ll find a new option both parts of you want without delay.

#5229​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago

Then again, so is not sleeping…

#5228​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

But you don’t have that obligation right now, right?

#5227​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

Hmm, I'm skeptical of the physics, and a cursory search supports. Not feasible for the same reason that holograms aren't (as depicted in movies): waves won't stop midair, unless they're "standing waves," which you can't do much with. Comment #5225 may also apply.

#5226​·​Tyler MillsOP, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

Just stumbled upon this tip in my Insta feed to deal with noisy neighbors: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Db4gheyx9WP/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Apparently you can buy a device that cancels out vibrations in your walls. Not sure I’m understanding exactly how it works.

#5223​·​Dennis Hackethal, 5 days ago

I also clearly procrastinate preparing food and eating, almost every day, conflicting with caloric intake goals. For a few years in childhood I had an anxiety disorder around eating. I suspect some residual hangup from that, but hard to say. Relates to the sleep trouble..?

#5221​·​Tyler MillsOP revised 5 days ago​·​Original #5220

Have done. Does not seem to have a strong effect on the "timer." Still may take an hour to fall sleep after getting back into bed. As if a certain amount of time in bed (certain amount of suffering, or punishment?) needs to pass before sleep will come.

#5219​·​Tyler MillsOP, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

I notice a distinct feeling of boredom after a certain amount of time in bed.

#5217​·​Tyler MillsOP, 5 days ago

I notice a tendency to find more things to do (such as research questions) leading up to bedtime, similar to how I miraculously find more tasks to do (such as taking out the trash) when trying to leave the house for an appointment (I have a lifelong habit of running late as well; I suspect a relation between these two).

#5216​·​Tyler MillsOP, 5 days ago

I do fall asleep more quickly the longer I've been awake, but not by as much as one would hope. After being up 18 hours, it still may take an hour or more for me to fall asleep.

#5211​·​Tyler MillsOP, 5 days ago

On days when I have extensively exercised, worked, socialized or all of the above, my trouble falling asleep seems largely unchanged. (It still often takes ~2 hours, without chemical intervention.)

#5208​·​Tyler MillsOP, 5 days ago​·​Criticism

Time-release melatonin also does not noticeably affect the larger issue for me of falling asleep.

#5205​·​Tyler MillsOP, 5 days ago