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And so for real-world rational subject there inevitable appears necessity of competition, ability to lie, on addition to the cooperation.

#4583​·​Yurii Pytomets, 7 days ago

What do you think about such acts as an example of manifestation of the intelligence, abilities to:
- Perceive
- Ask
- Lie
- Joke
- Change

#4582​·​Yurii Pytomets, 7 days ago

In an "ideal" world with unlimited sources and time.
Real-world cognition model must handle resource (time, computation, available energy, logistic, complexity, influence) bounds as an explicit manageable constraints, presented for the conscious.

#4581​·​Yurii Pytomets, 7 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Okay, it looks like, counter-argumenting isn't enough to make a more interesting model by eliminating contradictions, let's try to find a common ground constructively, and use them as a fruitful source of improvement possibilities, I hope you do not perceive my, a bit informal way of express counter-arguments, personally, but as a valuable opportunity to test and improve worldview, as so do I, or just because of curiosity, anyway there's no reason to protect any fragile theory, except for a practice and for a cognitive workout purpose. So, back to the point: how your worldview model deals with Kuhn's stance of epistemic's non-monotonic nature? Do you have some formal semantic/logic in mind? Intuitionistic/nonmonotonic/relevance/modal, in particular epistemic/doxastic/temporal logics? There's pretty interesting matching and reachability logics: http://www.matching-logic.org . The https://cis.temple.edu/~pwang/NARS-Intro.html model looks promising. But there's a lot of opportunities to improve/overcome computation complexity issues (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_explosion), and probably re-imagining, what computers are -- could be the key (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer). I agree with the take that only proofs counts which possible to run on the computer. But at the end, any computer or any person -- are just phenomenons at reality, not available for the direct observation and verification, so, after all, at the end -- it's all just vibes around the silent essence.

#4580​·​Yurii Pytomets, 7 days ago

The certainty that one able to know something in advance.
The root of all kind of discriminations and profanity, for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice

#4579​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago

Agree, you right, accepting the mistake.
Would you like to tell more what you found important from the Popper's work?

#4578​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago
#4577​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 8 days ago​·​Original #4576

As you wish.

#4576​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago

Pretty confident takes as for a person who isn't going to sell you something useless :)
I would prefer to doubt a possibility to avoid death, there's 4B years of pretty reliable statistics. But I believe you.

On other hand, it's way more refreshing to accept a few years of existence as an unique gift and value the possibility to enjoy it.

#4574​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 8 days ago​·​Original #4573​·​CriticismCriticized1

Pretty confident takes as for a person who isn't going to sell you something useless :)
I would prefer to doubt a possibility to avoid death, there's 4B years of pretty reliable statistics. But I believe you.

#4573​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

leads to stasis, unhappiness

And for that matter: excessive load of irrelevant cognitive work, like overcoming ambitious goal for the sake of rationalizations of rationalizations of rationalizations, paying time and sacrificing attention to the own emotions, e.g. very actual reality of being here and now on regular basis -- that's what actually could lead to unhappiness. There's nothing bad in death. But that's an existential disaster -- to not live.

#4571​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 8 days ago​·​Original #4566​·​CriticismCriticized1

leads to stasis, unhappiness

And for that matter: excessive load of irrelevant cognitive work, like overcoming ambitious goal for the sake of rationalizations of rationalizations of rationalizations, paying time and sacrificing attention for the own emotions, e.g. very actual reality of being here and now on regular basis -- that's what actually could lead to unhappiness. There's nothing bad in death. But that's an existential disaster -- to not live.

#4569​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 8 days ago​·​Original #4566​·​CriticismCriticized1

leads to stasis, unhappiness

And for that matter: excessive load of irrelevant cognitive work, like overcoming ambition goal for the sake of rationalizations of rationalizations of rationalizations, paying time and sacrificing attention to own emotions, e.g. very actual reality of being here and now on regular basis -- that's what actually could lead to unhappiness. There's nothing bad in death. But that's an existential disaster -- to not live.

#4567​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 8 days ago​·​Original #4566​·​CriticismCriticized1

leads to stasis, unhappiness

And for that matter: excessive load of irrelevant cognitive work, like overcoming ambition goal for the sake of rationalizations of rationalizations of rationalizations, paying time and sacrificing attention to own emotions, e.g. very actual reality of being here and now on regular basis -- that's what actually could lead to unhappiness. There's nothing bad in death. But that an existential disaster -- to not live.

#4566​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

prejudgment

Unclear what this means.

#4565​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 days ago​·​Criticism

Is prejudgment and conformism any good?

I’m not advocating conformism.

#4564​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 days ago​·​Criticism

What you describe sounds more like Kuhn’s stance, not Popper’s.

#4563​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 days ago​·​Criticism

Even if that were true, that doesn’t mean we need to endure unhappiness or stasis until then.

#4562​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 days ago​·​Criticism

Not necessarily, no. It’s a soluble problem.

#4561​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 days ago​·​Criticism

This isn’t a criticism.

#4560​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 days ago​·​Criticism

Am I? That happens. Would you?

#4559​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago

objective

Oh well

#4558​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

It’s bad

Is prejudgment and conformism any good? Popper is famous for his theory of scientific revolutions, de-facto theory of accepting a fact that you have only merely a "current paradigm", that inevitable ignores observational facts in the name of infrastructural and logistical cost of maintenance more-or-less consistent consensus tradition. And readiness to throw it all away as soon as there will be just enough black swans around. Wouldn't it be more honest and humbly just to accept the inconsistency as a basis?

#4557​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized3

death

Everything leads there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3xIs0aajN4

#4556​·​Yurii Pytomets, 8 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized2

“truenesslessnessless”, “beingnesslessnessless”, “thisnesslessnesslesssness”

What? You’re rambling.

#4554​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 8 days ago​·​Original #4551​·​Criticism